can someone tell me if I can use a regular floor machine with this product? Will I acheive the same results, or would I be compromising them? Also, how well does this work on things like grease (i.e. restaurant cleaning)?

We started out with a regular floor machine and a bonnet pad,graduated to the fiberplus pad on the floor machine, and than we saw the Cimex in action and have been using the Cimex ever since. Cimex has much better agitation and achieves it much faster than a regular floor machine. We now have 2 Cimex machines and have just ordered a third machine.

As Don said, the Cimex is going to get the job done more efficiently than a rotary machine(in fact over 600% more efficiently). However there are a number of folks who are using rotary machines to perform encap cleaning, so it can be done. It will just require more time and effort.

Regarding restaurant grease. I have always said that heavy grease is the upper limit of this cleaning technology and have advised against it. Moderately oily carpet can be cleaned very nicely with Releasit. In fact, tests with our new fluorochemical formulation show that it does an even better job at handling oil. BTW our carpet cleaning company has been cleaning a restaurant with 3 locations once a month with the Cimex and Releasit and we've had zero complaints (previous methods had generated a few complaints). There are also a number of our customers who are using this method to successfully clean restaurants. So give it a try and see if it can handle your restaurant, it might just do the trick for you too.




Rick Gelinas

Forgot to add my 2 cents worth on greasey carpets.
Just last night we did the local Frito Lay Chips office, grease upon grease upon grease.
We have done this site for many years on a monthly cycle, last year they had a lot of cut backs and reduced the cleaning to every 3 months, we almost walked from the contract because I knew it would be impossible to clean and make any money. A long comes the Cimex machine, we use it to pre scrub with a degreaser, followed with truckmount extraction, and lo and behold we now clean the place in half the time, so no encap products would not work but the Cimex sure has more than one use.

Hey Don,

We're also running three 19" Cimex machines in our carpet cleaning business right now (1 in one van and 2 in the other). This gives us lots of flexibility to be able to service a wide variety of commercial accounts (large - small - you name it). Three seems to be a good number for a small to medium sized company.





Rick Gelinas

I just did a residential the other day - berber - fairly soiled. I used my OP machine with Ricks white pad. Took me a while but came out real nice - why no Cimex? didn't have it with me - why no truck mount? sold it!

Bob
I too have been encapping recently with my OP (Challenger). When I have attempted to use it with
the FibrePlus pads, there is an uncomfortable degree
of what I would call drag, and the machine strenuously
wants to go where it wants to go. I've tried this with
a glider (holy glider with velcro attached) and this
doesn't seem to help much. So when I encap, I have
been using a white nylon scrubbing pad - the kind with
the green stripes. The machine is very easy to use this
way, with or without a glider, and the results have been fine, from what I've been able to see. How do
you use the FibrePlus pads with the control difficulty
I've been having.

Mark Dullea

Hi Mark,

I have a bunch of guys using our FiberPlus pads with OP machines, including the Challenger. And they're repeat customers. So it seems like it is working for them. I'm not an expert on OP cleaning though, so maybe one of the OP guys can advise on what they're doing with their OP machines and the FiberPlus pads.




Rick Gelinas

When we use our OP machine we use a regular bonnet pad, for the same reason you indicated the fiberplus pad is hard to control, having said that after it has a few hundred miles on it the fiberplus handles o.k. on the OP machine

??? OP ???

OP = Oscillating Pad.

This is accomplished with a machine that looks similar to a rotary machine, however it oscillates (like a car buffer) rather than rotating. It is typically used with absorbent pads (similar to the bonnet method). However in this context the machine is being considered for encap cleaning. As far as performance goes, this machine won't compare to the Cimex, but it is another alternative for those who already have an OP machine.





Rick Gelinas

We just use OP machine in small confined areas, saves fighting with Cimex in those areas.