OK guys after searching numerous back threads about encap/cimex, I have decided that it's time to buy some Releaseit and pad drivers.

Would you believe I picked up an older but still yellow colored Cimex this past winter ($225+plus new belt) and I have done nothing with it.

My real question is with the national MMM's all over the place, in almost every retail store out there. Where would you suggest to look for commercial business. I'm pretty good at marketing but after subtracting the MMM business there does not seem to be alot left, give me some ideas, the more the merrier.

PS Rick, once I have figured out where to look for business, I'm ordering the above mentioned.
Thanks for the belt and the advise to pick up that machine back in December.

Thanks for all of your help!

Hi Scott:

The world is as your disposal with this system. Apartment common areas and move outs.

-Dr. offices,
- office buildings
- malls
- gyms
- any commercial building you want.

In reality, the only stores that deal with your MMM's are your large national chains for the most parts. Any privately owned or local buisnesses are yours for the picking. For what you can do and for whatever price you choose, no truck mount operator could compete. I own a truckmount and a cimex and can safely say that especially when it comes to commercial, the truck doesn't stand a chance.

Rick Thode
Clean Effects
The Canadian Releasit Connection

like that above good post, the sky is the limit.
There are tons of commercial jobs out there.
just drive down the road and start writing down names.
most MMM like it was mentioned, do the larger chain stores.
They haven't a clue as to all the Ma and Pas and their establishments.
The great thing about the commercial side of things and what the Cimex brings to the table, is the ROI, return on investment, is absolutely incredible with this machine, esp when coupled with Ricks Releasit. "the juice"
you could buy a nice older model commercial cargo van and have it lettered for 3k.
you then add a Cimex for 2k,
you have an initial investment of 5500 with a nice sweeper and some inexpensive accessories.
Now that is it to send your way to between 50-100k if you work at it.
I struggle and am getting there overall, but in invested also 40K for my TM>
so compare that amount to the low investment of commercial markets with the cimex. there isn't a comparison.
It takes both for me to make alot, but then again, i can contradict that and say that just the commercial market in a year or so would yield me a good standard of living on that small investment on its own.
It is all what you make of it. Be clean, be personable and be honest and clean like hell.
then, "the sky is the limit"
good luck buddy.
believe in yourself and go get em'.

Steve

Steve Dobson
ProFloor
Custom Cleaning Services

If you want business from MMM's take out an ad in the nationwide yellow pages or ask the manager at any of the stores, they are helpful when you are buying from them. Have fun getting them to pay you in a timely manner. I second what Rick says. There is carpet everywhere you go. One place I have found as a good source is retirement complexs, doing halls and common areas on a monthly contract. Then the retired people living there see you cleaning carpet, that is usually an easy sell.

Mr. Dobson is correct, I have over 40 grand invested with trading in equipment and upgrading. If only Rick had come along sooner

Steve Frasier
Drew and Steve's Floor Care
www.drewand steve.net

what is MMM?

Steve F., do you come across any urine contamination in the retirement homes? if so, have you Encap'ed them? and with what success?

i hear ya fellas, in the past 8 months i have bought a new HWE unit, a mint used van and several tools / toys for HWE'tion. had i heard of Encap sooner, i coulda made alotta different choices and saved several thousand easy! a 1 ton extended van is a lil overkill for a Cimex lol...but i figure it impresses my prospects / clients, so it's a trade-off (not to mention a gas guzzling 13 miles per gallon )

thanx --- Derek.

BTW, yes the sky is the limit. i was NEVER one to give free anything. but now that i invested in a Cimex with Rick, i am determined to make it work. so now i offer a free demonstration of CC'ing a minimum of 100 sq.ft.

i tell prospects in person or on the phone, "what a demo entails is we schedule a time for me to come in and clean a small office or your lobby...." and wow does this work like crazy! as i mentioned before, i have given only 3 demoes with my Cimex and all have turned into paying clients with one of them already giving me a referral.

i am still trying to remember that the Cimex does the work and not me using the scrub wand anymore...it's so simple

I started using bac out a long time ago. I did use some encap on a residential urine, kind of flooded the area, agiated it then spot lifted it with a water claw. Haven't done it with the cimex yet. Lately I have been using an acid rinse or bac out and odorcide for the urine smell. The retirement home didn't have many urine problems, not a nursing home situation.

I just followed Ricks plan...I printed his flyer on one side of the page and his cover letter (with my own info) on the other...walked around for a week handing out my flyer and cards even before I had the cimex !!! One thing I learned is nothing beats selling by walking around....

Urine is a contamination and probably should be treated as such, then encapped in the normal process or by another means. the water claw is awesome. i use it with Bac Out to great success.
The cimex works great on most spots,general ones,and spills.
but we arent normally talking odor'ous spots either. urine is and it will ruin things underneath it and if it is animal oriented, they love to reture to it, use it again.So rick can correct me if I am wrong, but i dont think that Releasit is the right choice for the urine contamination process..... am I correct here anyone?

Steve

Steve Dobson
ProFloor
Custom Cleaning Services

I have used Releasit on minor, single deposits of urine with success, but not class 2, 3 or 4 urine jobs.

The next severe urine contaminated loose rug I get in, I will give it a try. This way, whether it works or not, I will be able to tell, and let others know how it went.

The advantage to doing this with a loose rug is I can see the front and back, and tell pretty quick what the results are.

Gary

I did a very urine soaked rug for a lady in an ALF, encapped the backing first (2x) then the surface 2x, it looked great, but it was so far past salvage I didn't want to charge her, the customer wouldn't hear of not being charged and even gave me a $5 tip. it was her husbands (deceesed)favorite rug and Dixie the dog has put a hurt on it.

The spots were gone but I could still smell urine, I think it was in the latex because it had bubbled in some spots.

Encapp as many carpets as you can, it's so new a method who knows what education you will get and be able to share?

Ref