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Clean & Vac

July 10 2004 at 12:37 AM
Dudley 

Anyone tried it? Opinions?

 
 
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Rick Gelinas

Re: Clean & Vac

July 10 2004, 8:27 AM 

I've only had a chance do some dish drying tests with it so far. I've been very busy working on our new products and getting ready for Connections. The dish drying test allowed me to see what manner of polymer the product was built with.

On the positive side, the product releases from a dish well. On the flip side, I have some concerns about the density of the polymer. I have spoken with chemists who are much smarter than I am about crystallization chemistry, and it's imperative that the polymer crystal has sufficient mass to hold up well maintaining it's integrity under foot traffic in the carpet, and likewise it needs to have enough mass to insure that it will not become airborne.

Also in resolubilization testing the polymer failed to maintain its integrity and turned into a very fine dust. Resolubilization testing is where we reintroduce water to the dried crystal to see if it will re-crystallize, as would be the case in a secondary carpet cleaning application.

So my initial observation is that the polymer may lack sufficient density. I want to emphasize that I am NOT bashing this product in any way. I am only basing what I'm saying on the performance of the products crystallization. I feel it would probably be a better product if Steve and John could adjust the polymer's performance.

I haven't had a chance to run cleaning and field-testing yet. I'll get to that after we're finished with Connections. Formulating this type of chemistry is unbelievably CHALLENGING. Working on our new products was further proof of that to me. I went through sample, after sample, after sample, after sample, from our chemist before we arrived at a balance that would work (and my chemists already had experience working on our original formula).

I wish Steve and John the best of success with their endeavor. I am NOT trying to undermine their efforts toward producing this new product. I am simply making an observation about one important aspect of its design. I hope that they are able to make adjustments to the polymer and that the product is a success. I would have to say that they’re on the right track. The polymer’s crystal structure is close, but it would benefit from some further tweaking. And in the end, raising the level of awareness of this method of cleaning is good for the entire industry. So my hat is off to the both of them for their efforts.




Rick Gelinas
ENCAPSULATION - How It Works

 
 
Dave Bigler

Clean & Vac

July 10 2004, 9:10 AM 

Rick: Well said. Comments like yours reflect a professionalism that is needed in our service industry.



Dave Bigler
When It Comes to Cleaning - the BIGLER the BETTER!!!

 
 
Ken Cox

wouldn't matter to me

July 10 2004, 10:07 AM 

if it were the best product in the world.

Not a fan of Guerkink. Too pushy with his "opinions",
politics, and too busy bashing everything that is not "his"

wouldn't matter if it were liquid gold, his overall approach to business
is such a turnoff for me.

Releasit all the way...

KC

 
 
Mark Stanley

Re: wouldn't matter to me

July 10 2004, 3:13 PM 

Amen to that, Ken! His army of zombies seems to be shrinking all the time. Steve Smith is a cool guy, though. Steve seems to always make himself available to help others. I like that!

 
 
Derek Beyer

Re: wouldn't matter to me

July 12 2004, 10:59 PM 

oooooooh so mr. Smith's product is also mr G's product...i didn't know.

yes Steve is a really cool guy in my book. he (along with a few others) helped me decide to get into encap'ing and get a Cimex. i wish him the very best!

thanx --- Derek.

 
 
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