I ordered some Encap-Punch yesterday and since I read on the site where it could be used for bonnet cleaning and HWE. I was wondering would there be any benefit to using it in the Cimex machine or using it as a pre-spray before the Cimex with Releasit? Would it make a better spotter than the 50-50 dilution of Releasit? So many questions here running through my mind. If anybody has tried it let us know what you found out.

Kevin Pearson

As a pre-spray Encap-Punch will be stronger than the traditional Releasit Encap-Clean mixed as a pre-spray. It is not going to work as well as Encap-Clean as a stand alone scrubbing encap cleaner since it is a low foamer. The foaming characteristic of Encap-Clean makes it very easy to guide your solution flow while your cleaning. Plus the surfactants in the two products are entirely different. The surfactants in Encap-Punch are really built on a HWE platform, whereas Encap-Clean is perfectly suited for shampooing. Also bonnet cleaning benefits from the low foaming aspect of Encap-Punch.

Let me tell you fellas - Encap-Punch is cutting edge. It contains solvents and surfactants that I'm surprised would even work in a crystallizing product. The secret was using a new surfactant to the industry. It was almost an accident that we discovered this blend. IMHO, our chemist is a genius. He's a real Poindexter who loves a technical challenge. Well I challenged him with this one. And what we got out of a whole lot of banging our heads against the wall is state of the art. Do I sound excited? I am! Kevin, when you get your Encap-Punch, dry some in a dish and check out the crystallization - it's incredible! And then go out and clean some carpet, I think you'll probably want to bring all your old chems down to the flea market. JK Let us know what you think after you give it a try. Thanks!




Rick Gelinas

man your gettin me excited Rick...cant wait to get my case

thanx --- Derek.

i'm wondering if this would be a good product to use on uph? gary heacock had great results with your Releasit, i wonder if this would work even better since it is low foaming and has solvents in it?

Encap-Punch will work extremely well as a HWE upholstery cleaner. However the upholstery cleaning method that Gary and others have done with Encap-Clean is to use it as a foaming product that they brush and towel, so Encap-Clean is still the ideal choice for that.




Rick Gelinas

Can't wait Rick. Sounds like there is so many new possibilities.

Kevin Pearson

Rick, if you use encap punch as a prespray and you run a clear water rinse to flush carpets with hwe, will the encap punch be to diluted to have effective crystalazation. And say if you where to run a different type detergent through your truckmount and you presprayed with encap punch will that ruin its effectiveness.

Brian,

A couple of good questions.

1. If you are using Encap-Punch as a pre-spray and rinsing with plain water you are going to lose a good measure of its encapsulating abilities since you'll be diluting a good portion of it away. Yet keep in mind that the detergent residue remaining in the carpet is designed to crystallize so it's still going to come out ahead of using Brand-X pre-spray that doesn't enjoy this type of technology.

2. If you rinse Encap-Punch with another type of detergent you'll invariably kill the crystallizing aspect of Encap-Punch. One thing we've found with the crystallizing chemistry is that it doesn't tolerate the introduction of foreign chemistry. It just won't crystallize properly. Yet you may still want to use Encap-Punch anyways even if you want to use a different rinse product since Encap-Punch is a really great pre-spray (you'd just be sacrificing the encap property).




Rick Gelinas

Rick
When I've used Encap Clean with my OP, I've used either your FibrePlus pads,
or a rayon/nylon (synthetic fiber) white bonnet pad with green scrubbing
stripes. While there may be some who still use these white/green pads
as their primary methods for cleaning carpets, I don't think they're much better than a scrub
brush for actually removing soil. I use them with your encap product primarily
because I believe they DON'T absorb much of anything.
That being said, I'm wondering if the new Punch product is supposed to be used
with non-absorbing pads, or could I use my 2-ply Argo cotton pads and get
good results (despite absorbing out a lot of the Punch?)

Mark,

You're right on the money.

Encap-Punch is the product to use for bonnet/pad cleaning. In that application you'll be cleaning with 2 methods - Absorption & Encapsulation. Soil will be absorbed into your bonnets or pads, and the remaining solution that's left in the carpet will crystallize and continue to be extracted with subsequent vacuumings. The reason why Encap-Punch is ideal for bonnet/pad cleaning is that it's a low foaming detergent, and foam gets in the way of effective bonnet cleaning. So if you decide to use Encap-Punch with your cotton pads you will see nice results. And if you want continue using your OP machine to agitate the carpet, then Encap-Clean would still be the right product to use.




Rick Gelinas

crap! if i understand you correctly Rick, i just ordered Releasit when i should have ordered Punch. lol i'm doing OP in residential, should i be using Punch instead of Releasit then?

Forrest.

Both will products work fine for bonnet cleaning. But you'll find that Encap-Punch is better suited for bonnet cleaning for the reasons mentioned above. This is not to say that Encap-Clean won't get the job done too (lot's of folks have flipped over Encap-Clean's ability to perform splendidly well as a bonnet cleaner). But the chemistry of Encap-Punch is even more compatible for absorption and extraction cleaning methods.

You can use a table knife as a screwdriver but that's not what it was designed to do. Encap-Punch was designed to work in a range of extraction applications, while Encap-Clean was designed to be used in a range of scrubbing applications.

So here's an overview of what the Releasit line now consists of. Without argument, we've got an unmatched scrubbing encap cleaner with Encap-Clean and Encap-Clean DS. We've also got a killer triple application encap product for pre-spray, HWE detergent, and bonnet cleaning. We've got a multi-spot encap spot cleaner that can tackle a wide assortment of spots, kills odors, and doesn't require rinsing. And we've got one of the industries finest fluoro-protectors that's fully compatible with our line of crystallizing products. Pretty neat! Now let's sit back and watch the wannabes try to copy us. hehehe




Rick Gelinas

Rick, is Punch double strength?

No Forrest. Here are the dilutions...

DILUTION RATES:

TRAFFIC LANE PRE-SPRAY:
Per Gallon Dilutions
Light Soil = 8 oz 1:16
Medium Soil = 10 oz 1:12
Heavy Soil = 12 oz 1:10

RINSE DETERGENT:
Dilution Truckmount: 1 quart per 5 gallons of stock solution.
Dilution Portable: 2-4 ounces per 5 gallons.

BONNET/PAD DETERGENT:
Dilution 8 oz per gallon.



Rick Gelinas