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Is it ok to HWE before encaping?

June 19 2005 at 4:47 PM
Joe Mellon 

Need to know,
Small office has had Chemdry doing there place for years, they come in (when they show up) so i was told and do there thing.
I want to start clean, HWE with encap punch and then hit it with the cimex and DS.
Is that overkill?

Thanks

 
 
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David Edwards

Re: Is it ok to HWE before encaping?

June 19 2005, 5:03 PM 

I'm sure that Rick and a few others are more qualified to give you the best answer, but I don't see where there would necessarily be any problem with extracting and then encapping. I will tell you this from experience: I've gone behind the local ChemDry and some other companies and just did a thorough vacuuming and then encapped and it always -- ALWAYS -- came out great.

 
 
Derek

hiyas Joe :)

June 19 2005, 5:43 PM 

i agree. while not overkill, could you possibly be wasting your time with the HWE? yes, possibly. maybe try a small area and see how it works out, could save you alotta time.

thanx --- Derek.

 
 

Joe

Derek

June 19 2005, 9:31 PM 

How's the collarbone doin, buddy? are you out there pushing that big old cimex around yet?!

Joe

 
 

Rick Gelinas

Re: Derek

June 20 2005, 11:48 AM 

I think your plan makes perfect sense. If a carpet has been neglected, doing HWE first can flush a considerable amount of crud out of the carpet. And if it is a neglected carpet, we can expect it to wick pretty badly following HWE. So an encap follow up with Releasit makes sense, since Releasit will fix the wicking and leave them with a nice looking carpet. The two step approach has proven to be a great combination for the badly neglected ones.




Rick Gelinas
encapman

 
 
David Van Briggle

Re: Derek

June 20 2005, 12:40 PM 

When following HWE with the Cimex & Releasit are you allowing the carpet to dry first so the wicking has occured or will cimexing directly after extraction prevent the wicking?

Thanks

David VB


    
This message has been edited by David_VanBriggle on Jun 20, 2005 12:40 PM


 
 
Derek

Re: Derek

June 20 2005, 2:33 PM 

that's a great question David.

never done either, but i would guess that it'd be better for the carpet to dry after HWE, then follow with Encap. this could be accomplished by simply starting the Encap where HWE was done 1st, by then it will be nearly dry anyways.

but i could be way off hehe, let's see what Rick or others with experience have to say.

thanx --- Derek.

BTW Joe, the CB is doing O.K., had a 2nd Xray last week and the bone looks the same as it did 3 weeks prior

the pain is far more bearable, tho i still try and keep up on my Vicodin(sp) doses.

can't do any CC'ing as of yet either. so far a good friend of mine has done 1 apartment for me and my father did a bank for me while my wife pre-vac'ed them. all other work has been postponed for a couple months. great time of year to not be able to work! :/

fortunately we still have our nightly office cleaning acct's that are paying the bills.

can't even go fishing which is really irritating lol.

thanx for asking have a good 1 fellas.

 
 
Mark Hart

Re: Derek

June 20 2005, 3:00 PM 

I have to think that encapping after HWE on the same day depends on what HWE system was used, how much time has passed & the clinmate control. I believe when Rick originally did it he went back the next day after the carpet dried completely and had wicked. Otherwise you're just making a wet carpet wetter.

 
 

Rick Gelinas

Re: Derek

June 20 2005, 5:37 PM 

Yep David,
When following HWE with Encap it's best to let the carpet dry and allow the wicking to occur. If you can schedule the follow up encap cleaning a day or two following the initial HWE cleaning you'll be able to obliterate any likelihood of wicking, leaving them with a great looking carpet.




Rick Gelinas
encapman

 
 

Stephen Dobson

Re: Derek

June 20 2005, 11:33 PM 

probably for the same day work, which is very important most times not to inconvenience a custy and also make productivity rates..

is to pad cap following HWE> I do it and it is very effective.

I prevac, go thru all the HWE routine.
if I feel the need to ENcap which is rare, but I have mainly to experiment, i then prespray the encapsulant,, Releasit of course, down and then use my rotary and pads to padcap it out.
In this manner, I have accomplished a few things.

1. the normal HWE,, which gives me a good flush and rids previous cleaners yuck.

2. I have encapped after the fact and also, extracted and assisted the drying process with the postpad/padcapping.

Now we have combined two methods into one.
After just a bit, you will become very productive and seem to want to implement it alot more often.

Another way is to post pad the HWE and then bring in your cimex and encap. it all depends on what tools you have.
how much time you want to spend on the job. How much youre getting paid, etc.

The methodology is out there. It all depends on your thirst for quality.

Best of luck and continued success.


Give it a shot.

Steve Dobson
ProFloor
Custom Cleaning Services

 
 
Richard Brooks

Re: Derek

June 21 2005, 12:59 AM 

Not that I'm a Guru but I couldn't have said it any better Derek. You’re a good man.

 
 
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