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ops this belongs in the Demon thread

August 22 2005 at 6:37 PM
David Hebert  

Actually the Demon can got 250 with a singe discharge and 400 feet with a dule discharge.

after using and selling Demons for 7 years the best method that work for us with it is as follows.

Prespray and scrub using what ever machine is your favorite. I prefere a cylindrical brush machine my self, then extract using the Demon.

In many cases the Demon will dry the carpet faster then a TM it will also create less wicking later on. Yes there are times you may want to post pad or wait till the carpet drys and then encap. The latter being my fav.
Having said that, it is rare for it to happen using the system I decribed, then again most of our accounts get either monthly or every other month cleaning.

With the Demon you have the ability to use other tools off it liek Rick described
I have used a wand or a wand with a brush on it.
office cubicals and tight spaces are usually not a problem for the XL version the Classic was more cumbersome in that reguard.


For hoses I would say to get another 50 feet of hoses made for the Demon, if you are strapped for cash you can put another 50 to 100 feet of contractor type garden hose in the middle of the two sets made for the demon. This allows you to have shut offs at both ends of the hoses.


I will try to post some pics tommorow if not I'll ask Rick to do so.

Personally we have a TM that has been sitting in the yard for a long time thanks to the Demon and Encaps.

We are just now getting more comfortable with just encaping jobs and are doing more as my comfort level goes up

David


    
This message has been edited by David-Hebert on Aug 22, 2005 6:38 PM


 
 
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Gary R. Heacock

Question on the SD

August 22 2005, 6:47 PM 

You have done the job and are finished.

The supply hose and the waste discharge hoses are full of water- clean and dirty.

How do you avoid spilling the clean- and dirty water- on the freshly cleaned carpet as you disconnect the hoses?

Gary

 
 

Rick Gelinas

Re: Question on the SD

August 22 2005, 7:17 PM 

Gary,
To start with I like to run some fresh water through the discharge hose to clear it out. To wind it I leave one end of the hose in the sink, toilet or outdoors. Then I begin winding by lifting the starting end of the hose over my head. Then as I wind the hoses, the water will continue to flow down the hose to the end that's terminated in the sink, toilet or outdoors. When I finish winding, I'll connect the two ends together.

David,
Those hose lengths are longer than Downey told me we could run on the machine with a single discharge. Have you found that you can run it that far successfully. That would be cool to be able to go that distance.



Rick Gelinas
encapman

 
 
Dan Brown

Question on the SD

August 22 2005, 7:51 PM 

I used the SD (xl-15) on another Residential today (Probably my 6th residential use since I recieved the machine), at the end of the job I turn off the water supply and run the jets to suck up the rest of the water in the supply. Then I tip the machine to one side to pump as much water out as I can out of the discharge. A big help also is to put the end close to the machine on quick disconnect's as it's so much easier to load/unload with the hoses unattached.

I also have added a Greenglide ( had to dremel a little and goop the ends for the best results) and I couldnt see using the machine residentially without one. I tend to make 1 fairly fast wet pass and then 3 slower drying passes to make sure I see no more water coming through the clear tube. With fan and post bonnet the carpets were probably in the 1 hour dry range. I have tried to use it with a 10 ft vac hose and the included length of sol. hose and found it to leave steps to wet to my liking so I have been using my US products roto and bonneting stairs.
I don't think I'll be trying it again on furniture or stairs again until I get a vac booster, which should make it the cats meow.

I am not sure how many people use this residentially, the machine kicks out alot of humidity right at the operator so I was thinking of getting some tubing to point the exhaust to the right of the operator or possibly a hose to vent everything outside( too many hoses to deal with). Anyone else have any ideas?

Dan

 
 
David Hebert

Re: Question on the SD

August 22 2005, 8:13 PM 

Rick from the Steamin Demon web site
How far from a water source can the Steamin Demon II be operated?
The standard unit can be operated up to 250 feet from a water source. For longer hose runs, an optional dual-discharge pump system is available which will allow you to operate up to 400 feet from a water source.

What is the capacity of the discharge pump?
Depending on how much hose is attached, the discharge rate is between 4.5 and 5.5 GPM. With the optional dual-discharge pump system, the discharge rate is between 6 and 6.5 GPM.

Gary I do a combo of what was already stated.
Tilt the machine to be sure the waste tank is empty, then run fresh water through the machine.

After a shut off the water and disconect the supply hose from the sink leaving the valves closes to the water supply open I will close the valves closest to the Demon then loosen the connections enough for air to escape. This will alow the water to drain back enough to shut the next connection with out leaking all over the place.


If you have garden hoses then either put a shut off on them or do as Rick does.

Ben I use the Demon is residential setting all the time and have been for years.
I have a rusted out parkered TM to prove it also.


Rick I have actually gone 300 feet away but that is pushing it a bit. Far better to find a closer place to dump. I have used a 50 gallon plastic waste tank in a few situations just make sure it is on a dolly or have a long 1.5 vac hose.


David

Dan to answer you about the attachments for doing stairs and such.
I use an enternal jet tool with out any problems. A few dry passes and UPH and steps are fine so far. You may want to try doing steps and UPH first before you get anything in the waste bag. It could be you lost some vac from the debris in the filter bag


    
This message has been edited by David-Hebert on Aug 22, 2005 8:44 PM


 
 
Dan Brown

Re: Question on the SD

August 25 2005, 2:12 PM 

Wondering about things I could do to further the performance of the machine I went and bought a 2 inch 90deg. elbow and put it on the bottom of the machine where the exhaust comes out.

I pointed it to shoot out to the right and hopefully this will cut down on alot of the sweating that I've had while running the machine.

Dan

 
 
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