Hello to Rick and all....


I have been a lurker for many moons...and while I was at Connections, I finally got to play with a Mex.

One thing that I noticed at Rick's booth, was that while someone was using it...it was creating a bunch of foam. Is this right?? They have it whipped up very very thick on the carpet...almost like a Tom & Jerry batter. Was this Relist...or maybe shampoo??? Is this correct to foam up like this? Does one use defoamer with it, or is it all the power of the 3 heads of the Cimex going and going?

I like how easy it pushed and was user friendly for my employees. But this foaming thing got me thinking a little bit. I to feel good in what I am selling my customers... since I would want the same.

Thanks
Bob

Ahh, you saw the foam in our booth. LOL
Well there's a simple explanation for the foam that you saw.

At one point during the trade show, a notorious fellow that goes by the name of Jimmy Ladwig stopped by the booth. And before I noticed what he was doing Jimmy proceeded to hold the valve wide open on the Cimex for a couple of minutes. Naturally he created a load of foam under the machine, which was exactly what he wanted to do. That way he could joke around about encap being shampoo as he likes to call it. That's a running joke with Jimmy. Actually Jimmy himself IS a running joke.

So now let's step aside from a prank and take a look at what encapsulation cleaning with the Cimex really is. Is it shampooing? By the current IICRC definition of cleaning methods, that's what classification the method falls under. However, "shampoo" may not be the most accurate description of the current encapsulation cleaning method.

You see, we've come a very long way from the old school shampoos that were around 20, 30, 40 years ago. The old IICRC thinking has not readdressed the issue of what's being used today. By comparison to "shampoo", Releasit is a much lower foaming product. Releasit Encap-Clean will only create a slight foam on the carpet, just enough to see a very light whitening on the of the surface. The slight amount of foam serves a a valuable purpose as it provides a visible indicator showing you how much product you're using.

Of course then again, when a knucklehead wants to be a joker and intentionally foam up a trade show booth with Releasit, well that can be accomplished too. But keep in mind that conditions like Jimmy created briefly in our booth really aren't real world conditions. It was simply the outcome of a carpet cleaner with a quirky personality who thought it would be a funny thing to do.




Rick Gelinas
encapman

Rick,


I think we missed the point a tadd here....What does one do it they creat too much foam or lather??? Is it different with brushes or pads? Does the DS juice compared to the other products that you carry have a different foam rate?

Also there was another stand there...that he has some hoopla about Version 1 encapp...a version 2...and now they are on the 3rd series of encapp. What do you know about this..or that...and how does this effect the juices... or application via Cimex?

Warmest regards,
Bob

Hey Bob,
very rarely will you create too much foam. It will usually be while you are new with the Cimex and are getting accustomed to triggering, when to trigger and when not to.

Every once in a while, i will get a bit of a build up,, being careless,, usually stopping and talking and triggering and not paying attention to what I am doing.

Merely scrub the lather out,, and it wont hurt,, and will dry just fine.

Its not a problem at all.
You wont be able to see that spot when it dries.

and this scenario will be very far between occurences I promise you.

It's a very very simple machine and method.


Yimmy was probably messing around and acting stupid. Imagine that! LOL
Yimmy Jimmy.

Steve Dobson
ProFloor
Custom Cleaning Services

How do we remove foam? In the case of the puddle of foam that Jimmy created at Connections, I ran the Challenger machine over the spot with a terrycloth pad. This sopped up the mess that he made. If it hadn’t been recovered, there wouldn’t have been a problem (as Steve mentioned above) but it would have been a mess to look at. Thanks a lot Jimmy LOL

You asked about, brushes and pads. You'll find that the FiberPlus pads will disperse the detergent more evenly than brushes. So this makes it easier to gauge how you're applying the Releasit to the carpet.

Regarding the foaming differences in our products… Encap-Clean and Encap-Clean DS are used in scrubbing applications, therefore it will foam slightly as I was mentioning above. Encap-Punch is designed with a different detergent package for HWE and Bonnet applications. These methods favor lower foaming. Therefore Encap-Punch is a LOW foaming product.

As regards other encap product's claims (“hoopla” as you aptly put it), I can't comment on what they are doing. Version 1, version 2, version 3, or version 75 - I can't see what difference that really makes.

Regarding “versions”; our product – Encap-Clean has been reformulated two times since we brought the original formula to market. So we're presently on the third version. I have told folks about the changes as we've made them, however I've never considered using these developments to try to persuade folks buy our products. Hey maybe I should have, I guess I never really considered marketing this fact. I consider reformulating the products as we find ways to make them better as something that's required if we expect to keep our products cutting edge.

Talking about versions, Encap-Punch just about drove me crazy. We earlier brought out two products, Encap-Traffic and Encap-Rinse. They were good products. But innovation led me to Encap-Punch, which replaced these two earlier products. As we developed Encap-Punch I spent a few crazy moths of going through batch after batch after batch after batch, trying to zero in on the right balance. I'm not kidding, it was insane! But I feel the effort paid off because Encap-Punch has proven to be a FINE product. And there again, Encap-Punch recently had a slight reformulation too. So tweaking the products is just part of the game.

Hope this answers your questions Bob.





Rick Gelinas
encapman

Heres a thing about releasit..

A while back i was doing about 6000 sq feet of carpet in a church. This was 5 hours before they were to have a major youth rally in the same sanctuary. I filled the tank up with RTU at 4oz per gallon h2o and walked away to plug in the Cimex.

As I came back i realized that I did not have the swing arm properly locked and the entire tank fell backwards dumping ALL of the liquid in a big puddle on the carpet right infront of the entrance doors.

I felt stupid but kept my cool in front of the youth pastor and about 5 others.
I did not have my porty or wet vac with me so i grabbed my 300 RPM swing. with only one cotton bonnet i figured i would just spread it out. Trust me there was ALOT of foam. I wrung out the bonnet 3-4 times but just kept spreading it out.

I put three air movers on the area and cranked the heat up in the room.
(in my mind i was thinkig i am going to have to come back the next day and fix the ring or wicking problem. at least the trail from the 300 kids walking on it in a few hours.

Fast foward to next day...
Not a spot.... Pastor had the fans in the closet and pews back in place. Carpet looked like new....
They called me bro. Bubbles for about a month..