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It looked good at first!October 9 2005 at 7:52 PM |
Ron
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| I did a commerical carpet job last night with my Cimex and Encap DS, when I was done I was very happy, just one pass and you could see the difference. I waited today (Sunday) to go look at it when no one was around and and it did not look like it did when I was done. Sure it looked better but, I still could see dirty area's. mostly the traffic area's.
The carpet is olefin carpet squares, gray in color.
Any and all sugestions would be helpful,
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Raf
| Re: It looked good at first! | October 9 2005, 8:49 PM |
try scrubbing with an olefin prespray followed by hwe...might even get away with pad/bonnett cleaning after scrubbing....you'll be amazed.
Raf, taking a journey into the Tile and Grout side of cleaning... |
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rlord
| Olefin | October 9 2005, 9:06 PM |
I had the same thing only beige and it looked good when I was done but when I went back it didn't look as good actually looked as ad) I had orginally done it with HWE and a rotary drimaster. When I did it over I used the Cimex and basically did it like it was a real dirty carpet. Pre Sprayed with Punch, Feathered the trigger, LOTs of dry passes and then when I was done went over the whole thing again with another dri pass. Came out great and still looks great. |
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Rick Gelinas
| Re: Olefin | October 9 2005, 10:37 PM |
Guys, ya gotta spend enough time to get the carpet clean.
Ron said... "just one pass and you could see the difference"
On a soiled olefin carpet you'll need to make 2, 3, or even 4 passes.
That means 1 wet pass followed by 1-3 dry passes. Plenty of agitation is the key to succeeding on a more soiled carpet. Remember the cleaning pie = T.A.C.T. AGITATION is the cleaning muscle with encap cleaning. So give the dirtier ones extra agitation and you will see fabulous results.
Rick Gelinas
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Ron
| Question for Rick? | October 9 2005, 11:06 PM |
The carpet I was talking about is in an office the plant which manufacture's pumps is right next to the office, Would it have turned out better if I presprayed it with Punch, it says it can break down greasy oils.
This is what I know they bring in from the plant. To get from the parking lot into the office they have to walk through the plant.
What about pads, I used these 8 inch white pads, similar to white polishing pads for a high speed buffer.
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Ralph
| Question for Rick | October 10 2005, 7:47 AM |
I have all the pediatric centers in my area that I clean twice a year And I do the waiting areas every 8 weeks. The waiting areas (300)patients per day are a mess after 8 weeks. I make at least 4 dry passes in the waiting areas using encap ds. I find the more agitation the cleaner it gets. Coffee,vomit,tar,grease are some of stains I see. One pass usually does not clean properly in trashed carpet.
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David Hebert
| Re: Question for Rick | October 10 2005, 10:34 AM |
If I am going to have to make 3 or four passes , it makes sence to me to break out the HWE followed by encaps with a beige pad, cotton pads/ bonnets.
Production time will close to the same and the carpeting will be flushed out. This will set the carpeting up for a good maintence schedule using encaps 90% of the time.
Carpets are trash cans or garbage collectors and sooner or later they must be emptied out.
Every new account we get we scrub then flush with the Demon, the carpet is then either padded or encaped. They key is to get then on a mainence plan after that.
We make the pricing attractive for them to get on a maintence plan, price break downs for monthly, bimonthly, and quarterly, First cleaning is full price discounts come when the fullfill the maintence agreement they sign. I will give them some FREE B just for signing the maintence agreement.
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Rick Gelinas
| Re: Question for Rick | October 10 2005, 1:11 PM |
Ron,
Encap-Punch would be a comparable pre-spray with grease cutting potential on account of it’s solvent and detergent blend. It’s a good pre-spray. You can also pre-spray with Encap-Clean DS mixed at 6 oz per gallon. The gray colored FiberPlus max pads would also be a perfect match for a tough carpet like you’re describing.
David,
If you're going to run a Steamin Demon followed by pad cleaning your production rates will be lower than running the Cimex at 3-4 passes. When we scrub a trashed carpet slowly at 3-4 passes with the Cimex our production rate is still running just above 1,000 sq ft per hour.
Rick Gelinas
encapman
This message has been edited by cimex on Oct 10, 2005 1:12 PM
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Mark Dullea
| Re: Question for Rick | October 10 2005, 2:35 PM |
Are the gray Max pads available in 10" size for the 24" Cimex? |
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David Hebert
| Re: Question for Rick | October 10 2005, 3:26 PM |
Thanks for the info Rick
I love getting numbers.
My production would be inline with yours if I did it my way.
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Rick Gelinas
| Re: Question for Rick | October 10 2005, 4:39 PM |
Mark,
I don't have the gray Max pads in our line for the 10" drivers for a 24" Cimex machine. We only have the standard 10" FiberPlus pads for the big boyz.
David,
You da man
Rick Gelinas
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David Hebert
| Re: Question for Rick | October 11 2005, 7:24 AM |
LOL Rick
I am not the man. After doing this process for years
I have it down, I can do it my self but, It works best to have two people doing
the process. one extracting one running the rotary.
After the first guy is done then two people running either a Demon or a rotary
depending one if we are prescrubbing or post encaps or pading.
I have no doubt that what you are saying works well. I am sure it is my personal confort level that makes me extract all first time accounts unless they are only light to moderatly soiled.
I think they call it Brain Washed LOL
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