Just wonderin' if anyone here has one?

What are you doing to load and unload it, Rick's ramp idea?

Machine Weight – 215 lbs.

How much solution does it hold onboard?

17" pad driver right? Anyone use oversized 19" pads?

FiberPlus or other pads?

Do you walk with it, or swing it more like a buffer?

"A Cimex can SAFELY spin at 400 rpm on the carpet because of its planetary design. On the other hand, a rotary machine (such as the Avenger) wouldn't be as safe for the fiber at 400 rpm"

Wouldn't this depend on the moisture level?

Thanks in advance.

GREENIE

COPIED FROM THE AVENGER PAGE:

The Carpet Avenger is a unique approach to cleaning large carpeted areas. High production commercial carpet cleaning moves into a whole new league with the Carpet Avenger. Cleaning rates over 6,000 square feet per hour have been reported.

The Avenger utilizes a powerful 11 horsepower propane powered Honda engine. The massive torque of the propane powered motor is mated with the correct gearing to bring the rpm down to 200 rpm, making the Avenger a very functional carpet scrubber.

The Avenger is also equipped with a 7.7 gallon tank so you won't have to stop for refills very often. A pump feeds a steady stream of encapsulation detergent to the carpet through a spray jet at the front of the machine.

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To put this into perspective...

Have you ever run a STRONG portable extractor? How does it compare to a beefy truckmount? Or have you ever seen a person buffing a supermarket or a department store with an electric buffer? Obviously not. An electric machine's limiting factor is that there's only so much power that you can draw from the current in the wall. A combustion engine produces a tremendously higher degree of torque and power. Not to mention, you don't have to deal with a cord.

At the center of the brush/driver is a 17" FiberPlus pad. There's a row of brush bristles around the perimeter. You will need a ramp to load and unload. Or you'll need two guys to lift it into the truck. Go to Link Manufacturing to get what you need http://www.linkcmp.com/Home.cfm

It's a new machine so not too many people have them yet. I have one of the Carpet Avenger's. My brother Dave and I have worked with it, so Dave can also give you some info about it. Jason Bailey has an Avenger too.

The machine just kind of makes your jaw drop when you see how fast and how well it works.





Rick Gelinas
encapman

Thanks Rick.

I was thinking the 7.7 gal tank was referring to the propane.

The outer rim of bristles with the FP pad in the center is an interesting combination, brings Dirtnapper to mind.

Is this the only size the Avenger will be avail. in? Or might there be a larger size as well?

GREENIE

(oops forgot to log in)

GREENIE

Hi Greenie

I don’t tink we’ve talked since Connections, I hope all is well.

To address some of your questions:

My propane buffers are exactly the same as these Avengers and I load them by myself with no ramps. I will tell you that it does bugger up the very front of the nose of the machine though. You can load them into anything from a mini van to a full sized E250 or the like. One other little thing that helps immensely is that in all of my trucks like most people I put a ¾ plywood floor in them. In addition to that I build what you might liken to a tail gate on it as well. I hinge another piece of wood onto the floor that when laid out flat extends to the back edge of the bumper. Many times I’ll need to put a shim of some type (normally a 2X4) on the outer edge so that when it does lay out flat it is the same plane as the van floor. Now how to load the machine; push the machine up to the back of the truck and stop 12-18 inches away from the van. Lift the handle straight into the air so that the machine lifts up on to its nose. Now you’re just balancing the machine, you’re not holding any real weight. Spin it around so the underside is now facing into the van. Set the back wheel onto the cool little tail gate you now have. If you’re right handed put your left hand onto the main bracket of the handle where it forms a 90` and reach down with your right hand and grab the valve cover. Now lift and pivot the machine into your truck. Its WAY easer than it sounds, give me call if you have any questions.

I guess Rick already explained the pad/size of the head. What was really weird about the machine was this; when you run a propane buffer the friction is so great that you heat up the floor if you run it slow enough. With the Avenger that didn’t seem to happen because of the slower pad speed and the little bit of solution that was on the carpet. Now I’m sure that if you tried you might be able to heat it up some but only a moron would do something like that on carpet. With regards to operation of the machine its a straight line machine, kinda like a lawnmower.

If you have accounts where you could reasonably run a vacuum that’s say 20-24 inches, you easily run this thing. It will save you tons and tons of time, it really is something you should try out if you get a chance.

David Gelinas
Marbleguy

David, thanks for that explanation of loading the buffer.

I do a very similar thing for both my portable and also my 2000 & 2400 dehums;

Could I offer this little hint.

Make up a small bracket, with small wheels on, this would clamp onto the front of the burnisher.

Still lift the burnisher as you now do, except, instead of swinging it around, simply push it straight in, on the wheels.

The wheels could be easily fitted/removed, as required with thumb clamps.

Leverage & fulcrum principles are always easier than dead lifts.

This is a very worthwhile piece of equipment for those with the work.

Hmmmm

Oh, I like this idea also,

http://www.linkcmp.com/Home.cfm

Cheers,

Shorty.

Man Shorty, I’m feeling pretty old some days but I don’t think I’m ready for any mortuary equipment yet. Hay don’t forget, Rick is the older brother around here.

No Link does have some nice ramps. Thanks for the suggestion on the wheels for the front; I’ll see if I can figure out how I can implement them.

David Gelinas
Marbleguy