| Commercial Breeze OP versus CimexApril 5 2006 at 1:40 AM |
Michael Chand
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| Thinking about purchasing either the Cimex or Commercial Breeze!
What cleans better not worried about the speed.
Cimex is flashy, better for big jobs (commercial)
Commercial breeze is for residential and commercial uses pads or terry towels which you would think give better agitation and pick up more soil.
Then again what cleans better?
Thanks!! |
| Author | Reply | Darwin
| Re: Commercial Breeze OP versus Cimex | April 5 2006, 7:53 AM |
If you live in my area go with the Breeze LOL. |
| Darren Darner
| Re: Commercial Breeze OP versus Cimex | April 5 2006, 9:18 AM |
From what I have heard these are 2 different animals. I have a Cimex and love it! It is the choice for commercial applications. The breeze or other op machines seem to be a way to low moisture clean residentials. They would also work on commercial, but probably much lower production rates than the Cimex - incidentally....production rate is the key to a successful commercial business.
Darren |
| Joe M
| If you live in cow country like Darwin does | April 5 2006, 9:45 AM |
I would go with a Butler, sucks up cow poop real nice n easy.
Amish don't get their carpets cleaned.
Hey Darwin, I'm Marketing, I'm Marketing.
Take care my friend.
Joe |
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Darwin
| Re: If you live in cow country like Darwin does | April 5 2006, 3:00 PM |
That's the bad thing with the cimex, it just throughs it around LOL. How's it going Joe? Did you make your first Million yet? |
| gblanas
| Cimex or Breeze | April 5 2006, 2:59 PM |
IMO, for high production commercial I want a Cimex. You fill the tank and go!
The Breeze is better suited to residential & small commercial, I use a Challenger, works great but not productive enough for large jobs. So match the machine to the type of jobs you do or want, then when you make enough money you can buy the other!
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Mark Hart
| Re: Cimex or Breeze | April 5 2006, 6:44 PM |
I don't understand why people think the Cimex is only for commercial. I have used mine for residential for 19 years. Today I cleaned 1065 s/f of berber in a manufactured home. Two of us, one moving furniture and the other operating the Cimex. Done in an hour. If the carpet was a cut pile I would have put brushes on the Cimex and groomed the carpet. The Cimex works in both venues.
This message has been edited by markahart on Apr 5, 2006 6:45 PM
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Michael Chand
| Cimex or Commercial Breeze | April 5 2006, 11:33 PM |
Cimex has brushes and the white polishing buffing pads does the dirt really adhere to it because the Commercial Breeze uses terry towels and you do pick up the dirt you can see it and you would think it dries in approx 15 minutes both cost approx if not over 3 grand and where i am at California bay Area have been told th 19 inch Cimex is very heavy. Then again which one cleans better I am down two these two units to finally make a decision. |
| Thang
| Re: Cimex or Commercial Breeze | April 6 2006, 1:35 AM |
Have you ever tried carryin the Cimex up a flight of stairs in a Residential setting mark???
CAn you say HERNIA!! |
| Shorty
| Can you say common sense?? | April 6 2006, 2:10 AM |
Matter of fact, I cleaned an 80m2 house this morning, that's about 800sf I think.
Took all of an hour, vac; 4 bedrooms, 'Mex; it and groom.
Then I went to an appartment block, unit 38, third floor, no elevator.
The Big Yella just followed me up the three flights of stairs, and then after it was done, I followed it back down.
It is not hard to do.
I have explained it all before.
Handle upright, motor tilted back and secured with a bungy strap.
Stand two stairs above the 'Mex;, breathe out & pull it up.
Before you know it you're at the top.
Same coming down, when the load comes on, exhale.
Balance comes naturally.
Of course, I have now been doing this for nearly twelve months, so I'm getting used to it.
Not a hulk, 61+, 16 stone & 5'7'' tall, so I guess I may be called vertically challenged.
Or a short, round, mound of sound, (some use another word). LOL
May not be as easy as a floor polisher, but it's not that much harder either.
Sometimes, I think the kids of today are becoming wimps.
Cheers,
Shorty.
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| Thang
| Still Hernia... | April 6 2006, 2:29 AM |
Shorty,I think you got your supernatural strength from living in the outback and boxing Kangaroos. lol I Still cant picture carryin a "Mex" up and down Resi. Stairs. 1: Because its too tight and narrow 2: Would never want my back to give out (Then Ill be screwed).
Uhoh!! I just remember that I have my pedicure appointment tomorrow morning. Now, I have to reschedule my morning jobs.
This message has been edited by The-Thang on Apr 6, 2006 2:32 AM
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Mark Dullea
| Re: Still Hernia... | April 6 2006, 7:37 AM |
I go with a 3-tiered approach:
Challenger for residential & small commercial.
Orbitec 20" machine with onboard tank, pump & sprayer for mid-size commercial.
Cimex 24" for mid-size to as-big-as-I-can-get commercial jobs.
And all 3 fit in very well together in my modest-size Honda Element, along with the rest of the usual stuff everyone carries around. On my roof rack I carry 2 10" 2x8's fitted at each end with a ramp adapter kit sold at Home Depot for about $10. You just have to pack neatly. Pretend you are living on a sailboat, or a submarine. A place for everything, and everything in its place. |
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Rambo
| Re: Still Hernia... | April 6 2006, 8:21 AM |
I was wondering if anyone could work out of a Honda Element and Mark answered it. I am considering one myself. Shorty, you are a powerhouse, no doubt. I still take my 19" Cimex up stairs and I am 8 years your senior. I call these young-un who can't, Wusses. I think most missed that you don't lift it up the stairs, you pull it up. Works for me. |
| Mark Hart
| Re: Still Hernia... | April 6 2006, 9:04 AM |
I am 56 and have always done what Shorty does. Cimex, porty, something is going up the stairs. Might as well be the thing the does the best job & gets me out the quickest. Anyway, my point was don't discount the Cimex for residential If you are trying to decide which machine to buy. |
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Rick Davies
| Re: Cimex or Commercial Breeze | April 6 2006, 9:50 AM |
I have 2 19" cimex machines and have worked with a guy "mark d"
who has a 24" cimex and a Orbitec 20" machine . While the 24" cimex has a 20% larger cleaning path than my 19" you definetly need a ramp system for loading and unloading. I have no problem lifting the 19" cimex in and out of my van without a ramp.The 20" orbitec has a smaller holding tank than the cimex and has dual front mounted spray nozzels which present a problem when going in reverse. With all the pros and cons it really comes down to what features are most important for each user. |
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Mark Dullea
| Re: Cimex or Commercial Breeze | April 7 2006, 11:04 AM |
While working with Rick (above) another difference we noted between the Cimex and the Orbitec has to do with where/how the cleaning solution is distributed. With the Cimex, it flows down thru the center (my understanding)
of the 3 individual heads. Hence no overspray. With the Orbitec, it sprays out ahead, and just a tad to each side. Since we were cleaning bookstores with shelves down to just a few inches above floor level, I felt the need to
stop my cleaning path a few inches out from the shelves so as not to wet the books.
On the other hand, with the Orbitec, I can either straight encap (scrub & run)
or extraction-clean with terrycloth pads. I fear that if I attempted to fit my Cimex with terry pads, then gravity-feed the cleaning solution down thru them, they would very quickly become saturated with cleaning solution, drastically reducing their ability to absorb soil. Since I offer to clean with an all-natural (non-encapsulating) cleaning product, it's important to me to be able to padclean effectively. To accomplish this with a Cimex, it seems to me I would have to make first passes with brushes or Fiberplus pads, putting down the cleaner as with a sprayer, then change the brushes/fiber pads to terrycloth pads to effect actual soil removal. Or -- have 2 Cimex machines on the job: one fitted with brushes/fiber pads; the other to be used with cotton pads. I suppose a 3rd option would be to have only a single Cimex, set up for cotton pad extraction, and a 2nd person out in front with a high-capacity, high-speed sprayer (Rocket-Spray?) putting down the cleaner. |
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