i'm looking at eventualy picking up a CRB machine... I primarly padcap and have been told the CRB does a great job for both the pre and post vacing.

should i stick to a standard vac for prevac jobs or should i stick to a quality vacuum for that portion?
thanks
mark

hi Mark. i wouldn't replace my pre-vac with any CRB machine. they have the agitation, but not the suction power. the closest thing i would guess is a pile lifter, and the X-Vac that Excellent Supply sells would be the only pile lifter i would consider.

hope this helps some.

thanx --- Derek.

Mark, my experience with CRB as a pre-vac can work well for you if you have the dirt catchers on both the front and back of the CRB machine. It will only work on post vacuuming if you are using a dry chemical to clean with. I use a Releasit of another wet chemical to clean with so the CRB does not do a good job. There is also a CRB with a vacuum port mounted on top of the machine and it does not do well with a damp cleaning method. It will work with a dry compound like Capture or Host (but who in his right mind would use a system like that) I still prefer a good vac like the Conguest for pre or post vacuuming. The idea is to remove a step using the same machine for two different task, and I wish it would work to meet our standards for cleaning, but it doesn't.

The PileMaster with the 2 collection hopper attachments will recover a surprisingly large amount of crud from a carpet. It won't cature fine soil that well though. It will perform almost as good as a pile lifter. Almost. But won't be quite up to the level of a good pile lifter.

Then there's a pile lifter. They lift pile like there's no tomorrow, but they're not quite as good as a commercial vacuum for fine soil recovery. They do a terrific job of digging the crud up from the base of the carpet. And they do a superb job of getting the fiber to stand up so it can be cleaned more easily. However they can’t recover quite as much of the finer soil as a top-notch vacuum can.

And then there's a good commercial vacuum. That's the ultimate tool for recovery of dry soil. They can consume fine dry soil better than anything else on the market today. Yet they're not as able to dig into the pile as a pile lifter can. That's why it's important to select a vacuum that can do a good job on the brush roller end so it can get into the pile.

In a perfect world, the absolute best dry soil recovery would include a pile lifter followed by a good commercial vacuum. And in a less than perfect world, sometimes you have to make do with what you have.

For those who want the best, we now offer some of the best dry soil recovery tools that I have seen to date. We now have the new X-Vac pile lifter and the Lindhaus vacuums on our website. Take a look... http://www.excellent-supply.com/store/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=11

The Lindhaus has the best soil pick up of any vacuum on the market. And the X-Vac outperforms every other Pile Lifter on the market. Good stuff!





Rick Gelinas
encapman

how do you think a CRB pre vacing would do?... seems it would lift the pile and help ease the vacing yes?

the lindhaus vacs look very nice, tools i the one thing the conquest doesn't have that i want/need... although i could use a seperate canister vac but that would be yet ANOTHER thing to clutter up the house and car.

Yes you are correct. A cylindrical brush machine, run dry over the carpet first, would lift the pile and make vacuuming more effective.





Rick Gelinas
encapman