I use encap cleaning all the time and I know it dries quickly. With this machine it says will dry in about 30 minutes and on another site it said 20 minutes. Has there been any tests done on commercial and pile carpet and recorded (Truthful) drying times? People are always interested on how long will it take to dry. This is a good price cause the next lowest price I have seen on a rennovator is about $2300.

The chems used and how heavy you lay it down would have more effect on the drying time than the type of CRB you are using. Heavier soil = longer drying time, Light soil = shortest drying time.

Drying times have many variables... Density of fiber, type of fiber, humidity levels, operator technique, etc.

I noticed that Windsor had printed "20 minute" dry times for the iCapsol. I had to scratch my head a little bit. Hey maybe they have an angle that I'm not aware of. But I think it might have also been an oversight on the part of whoever wrote the specs. As you probably know, I have a little bit of experience with encapsulation cleaning. And I honestly feel that 20 minutes is pushing on the short side a little bit. I don't want to overstate anything that we publish on our website. Thus I feel that a more reasonable estimation of dry times would be approx 30 minutes. So that's why our website states 30 minute dry time for the iCapsol. I'd love to promote 20 minute dry times if I could - it sounds better than 30. But IMHO I think that's just a little too short.






Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

So what is wrong with that. IMHO I think 30 minute dry time is too short and if you do not get it dry in 30 min. you open yourself for questions from your customers. Why not state 1 hr. dry time and if it drys in 45 min., your a hero, rather than the other way around. Understate and Overdeliver

Ray,

From what I've observed, it seems that dry times typically fall in the 30 minute range using a cylindrical brush cleaning system. I think that stating 30 minute dry times for the "product specs" on the iCapsol is pretty accurate.







Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

Probably will get this machine sometime anyway. For the last couple of months have been looking at dry compound cleaning which is a little damp but kept looking for a machine. Now all of a sudden I see two machines which can do the job but this has a better price. I know there is special qualifications for dry compound cleaning which I have looked at this company in Calif. and see the customers they have drawn in because people want dry. This machine would come in handy for those people with special needs. I still like to encap with my buffer and solution tank.

Charles check out the products listed earlier for me, Control from Harvard Chemical Research, and www.drymax.com. Also if so inclined check out CAPTURE and possibly a Millicare franchise? Sure has seemed to work for RD Weis it seems.

Control from Harvard (founded by John Lunsford) is a copy of Host. the name "Control" came from my Seminars and saying; you must keep the moisture and soil under control. I can give you the complete history if you call me direct. The bonnet brushes made by Advance were made to apply Capture powder to the carpet. Advance also made a special machine that looked like a battery operated automatic floor scruber and the Capture powder was added to the machine (much like adding water) and the powder would cascade over the front of the machine onto the carpet just before the machine ran over it and massaged it into the carpet. The 20" brush was unusual in that it did not make a full circle/spin but viberated. A very expensive and quite unreliable machine. I know as I purchased many of them to clean stores throughout the SouthEast. Applying powders to the carpet for cleaning come with their own set of problems. I have tons of experience with Host, Control and Capture. I'll take the liquid route anyday.

I guess I am showing my age a little but Clarke used to offer a brush for rotary machines for CAPTURE. I've used it with pretty good success, and believe an "Adjustaglide" brush might do as well of better, if Clarke no longer offers the "powder brush". A counter-clockwise scrubbing motion seemed to work well, as did East, West, North, and South. It does have limitations compared to CBM's, is a bit more of a work out, and if circuits are heavily loaded can be a pain. I've even used a pad that was distributed by National Labs (the Lysol, Metalist, Mastpiece, and Love My Carpet/Resolve)people that was basically two circles of really dense cut pile carpet glued together. That was a groin injury waiting to happen on real uneven floors. Would be curious to see how ETC RUFF floor pads might do on powder? Especially if it were pretty moist or the prespray was used. Just be careful if you live in cold climates, the static electricity charge can really hold the powder in the carpet, definitely need a Conquest or X vac then. Also Milliken makes a special prespray for those high static months/environments, it is useful. Best of luck, remember people don't walk close to the baseboards, no need to put the powder over there and make more work for yourself in trying to get it off.