Rick, I have used a lot of Releasit but I have never used your carpet and upholstery protector. Can it be applied after encapping or does the carpet need to be extracted prior to application? It seems that if the protector was applied after encapping that it would mess up the encapsulation process. I am ready to order some new protector so I am looking forward to your answer.

The beauty of Soileze Protector is it is designed to be totally compatible to apply after cleaning with any of the systems without messing up the chemistry. It's also great because it not only repels water & oil based stains but also Alcohol based which most products do not protect against.

Excellent products and keeps the moisture level down for quick drying

Rick Thode
Releasit / Cimex Canada

I have my garage carpeted with olefin and also have a large walk-off mat the is 100% nylon leading into the home. This is a great place for testing as we track off a lot of stuff before entering the home like transmission fluid from shopping center parking lots and Georgia red clay , etc. I am testing it now and am very impressed with it's performance. I actualy bought a case to try, not like some who might comment on it's performance but never bought any. Will report later on how it works on furniture, and the cost to use as it is a RTU product.

I my experience they are totally compatible. In fact let me tell you how it saves me time (Ka-Ch’ing--- $$$$) by not swapping pre-sprays- rinses, etc.

In residential I pre-vac and set up my bucket heaters and my Olympus portable with a recirculating heater hose. I always have 15 gallons of boiling hot water that way (20 if I want to, but 15 does most houses EASILY).

I use my Sprint to pre-spray with Punch at the dilution on the bottle- depending on the soil load. I load my Sprint from one of my 5-Gallon buckets with a heater by using 2 loads from a 1/2 gallon pitcher and the Punch. I usually pre-spray 2 rooms at a time.

Then I have my portable and RotoVac ready to go running Punch as a rinse through it. If I have extra leftover chemicals in my Sprint when done pre-spraying I just dump them into the clean side of my portable and use them up.

I then use my Sprint to spray SOILEZE and work it into the carpet very well. It also does an excellent job of grooming the carpet and assisting in drying as well too.

Today I had a 2-story. So I pre-vaced the entire house. Then I pre-srayed and extracted the entire upstairs first. Dumped my leftover Punch pre-spray into my portable's clean side. Then I protected the upstairs with SOILEZE through my Sprint.

I then moved my portable (well OK everything) downstairs. I cleaned the stairs pre-spraying with Punch in a hand sprayer and working it in with my Craftsmen cordless drill and a Roto-Brush. I dumped the remainder of my Punch from my hand sprayer to the clean side of my portable. I then protected the stairs with SOILEZE, but only put about 1/2 as much in the hand sprayer (gauged after how much pre-spray I had used). I worked that in with my drill and brush. I had a few ounces of SOILEZE left over- dumped them into the clean side of my portable with my Punch rinse (there is already some small amounts of SOILEZE in Punch from the factory).

I then pre-sprayed the downstairs living room with Punch through my Sprint. Extracted with my portable running punch rinse and then protected with SOILEZE through my Sprint again.

So it saved me a lot of time rising sprayers and mixing my previous Bridgepoint cocktail and I used only 2 jugs of chemicals instead of 4 for my previous mixture.

This ability has decreased my residential cleaning times by about 10-15%, when you leverage that it MORE then offsets the slightly higher cost of Punch and SOILEZE over what I was using before.

So that's my experience anyway...

Oh yeah- and the carpets- looked- “Smashing Baby”. (I even got a referral and an estimate for next weekend out of it!)

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

Del,
that is an awesome experience with the releast-it encap products. It certaily sheds light on the benefit of release-it.
You Showed how simple it really is to use release-it and obtain TOP-QUALITY results. I just need to get a top quality portable, and a crb then i can take my business to the next level, equipment wise. \

I already have the very best chemical,i believe.

I have a question for you though. Did you add the protector in the cleaning as standard or they requested it??
Good job Del I appreciate your experience!

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

hiyas Alex

i think he charges for protectant. i've never seen anyone on the forums who didn't.?.

thanx --- Derek.

oh and BTW Bro, you mean you, " already have the very best cleaning solutions".

try and REMOVE that word from your vocab, alot of ppl are scared of it these days

Del, Sounds like you have a great system that I bet no one in your area can duplicate. Did I read it correctly that you only use 15 gallons on a whole house? With using a sprint to prespray do you only extract the traffic areas? Which US Products porty do you have? I am trying to sell my TM and want to go the VLM route, and your post peaked my interest. Also how long would it take you to do say 5 rooms.

P.S. sorry to ask so many questions. lol.

As Rick mentioned above, Soileze is completely compatible with our full line of products. In fact it's the exact same fluorochemical that's in our detergents. And Soileze can be applied directly following the cleaning (prior to post-vacuuming) without any concern that it will mess up the encapsulation process.

Hwy Del - I'm glad to hear it's working well for you! Thanks for sharing that info with us.







Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

Tracy,

Many times I may use less then 15 gallons, and also use a RotoVac which can really lay down some water too- 6 jets on that bad boy.

If I am taking the time to break out the portable I almost always extract everything- especially residential. Don’t forget on a cut nylon there is a heat twist set at the factory. Low moisture is a great tool and I am a HUGE fan, but it cannot reset the twist on the pile like HWE can.

I have an Olympus M200H portable, available from Bridgepoint. If I were getting my first portable though, I personally would consider a Cross American Recoil 3HP. Derek used to have one so he can give you the low down on that.

I am not the best judge on time. I roll slow, I know I roll slow- I don’t care. I have a phenomenal relationship with my clients and I do high quality work. We could probably yank some old folks out of the home that clean faster then I do- sorry no help on that one. I’ll tell you though my job today was 708 Sq. Ft., 2 stories, including stairs. It took me about 3 ½ hours. The bill: $267.18 (included a 10% discount as it was an old friend of mine- otherwise it would have been $297.04)

Is your truckmount paid off? If so why sell it? If not and the payment is low I’d keep it. I’d love to have a truckmount. But I keep my overhead low and bootstrap my business by only having what I can pay cash for so a truckmount is a LONG way in my future.


Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

Your answer to Tracy. Was very good description how you serve your accounts. I like your style. Slow quality work. Hey man this nylon cut twist set you mentioned, what exactly are you talking about on that? Is it something that i can adopt and benefit from? Thanks Del good info.

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

Not only does heat clean better, but when you have cut pile carpet almost all of them are set at the factory with a twist. Pull a cut pile strand and you'll see what I mean. The strand is made of many filaments that are twisted together. The twist is set by high heat. Sort of like a woman using a curling iron on her hair.

This twist can come undone. Time, soil, and heavy traffic can all cause the twist to untwist. In fact some low moisture cleaning methods can help undo the twist. Especially if done too aggressively. This is sometimes referred by other cleaners I believe as "tip bloom". It is one of the reasons I use a CRB machine on residential cut pile, it greatly helps me avoid even creating or worsening the issue.

A thorough HWE with really high heat can help "refresh" the factory twist.

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

I strongly believe. Or I firmly believe. Or I am convinced. Or I am thoroughly convinced. In others words I feel like i have the best chemical in my possesion other wise i wouldn't have it, unless i just absolutely need to settle for less.

I just didn't want to offend anyone Derek. Some believe they posses the Best chemical. So i can only state ,as the saying goes on the board, "IMHO" how i feel and leave them with their dignity.


I'm doing good, Ive been pounding the pavement trying to win some accounts. With Release-it and Mex, I've been planting some fruitful seeds. I just need to keep watering them so that something can grow to pen and paper.


Thanks
Your Servant Alex

Alex,

You missed what Derek was saying.

He was suggesting avoiding the use of the word "Chemical" when dealing with your customers. Many customers have a negative image in their mind when they hear you use the word chemical.

That's why Derek suggested using the term - "cleaning solution", or you might use the expression - "cleaning agent".

This is simply a good marketing point to keep in mind and a good suggestion from Derek.






Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

GOTCHA!!! After using it four more times in my response.(smile)
I'm so glad to see your post, i missed the italics........You've been a big help to me Derek. Thanks Rick!

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

I almost always quote the fee for the carpet cleaning and on a separate line quote the price for the protector application. I deal mostly in mid to high end residential and rarely get questioned and therefore sell protector on about 75% of my jobs by simply putting it on the invoice.

I get another 5-10% after a protector demonstration. A few go "protectorless" (is that a bad word?- it sounds like it).

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

Your process sounds great but I have a question about it. I don't have a Sprint (but am seriously considering getting one) so I'm not familiar with its solution output. Is the solution output low enough that your not putting too much protector down and risking getting the carpet all crunchy?

Hello Rick T.

I'm wondering about the technique you mentioned about the wool carpet. What else can that be used on? How about water base paint on the carpet? (Nylon/olefin)

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

Good to hear from you Bro.
This technique is usually used for dye removal, so I was merely suggesting it as a last ditch effort to remove the wood stain itself. Normally for paint you want to use some sort of non-volatile solvent, even WD-40 dabbed on with a cloth, to break down the paint and then this technique can be used to try to remove the last traces of color. Normally you mix 50-50 30Vol peroxide with ammonia and mist it on and leave it to react by itself. I left out the Ammonia in my suggestion because the high pH would definitely damage the wool fibre. This solution is accelerated with heat, but it becomes very aggressive with heat so you only want to apply heat in the form of steam a few seconds at a time and monitor it so you don't go too far.

This is the procedure I use to address coffee, wine and many other dyes

Rick Thode
rick@releasit.ca
Cimex / Releasit Canada

Rick,

good deal. I tried to e-mail you but it did not work. I would have to be careful with that stuff I'm kinda on the clumsy side.
W-d huh? I never would have thought. Well thanks for the input i'll definately put it to use.


Thanks
Your Servant Alex

Dion,

When I am applying pre-spray I spray continuously, on both the forward and backward strokes. The only time I stop applying pre-spray is when I am with about 6-8 inches of anything I don't want to get pre-spray on: walls, tile flooring at the edge of the carpet, furniture, etc.

When I apply protector I only spray protector on the forward stroke and work it in with the forward and backward strokes. Then, move over and spray protector on the next forward stroke. Again I stop 6-8 inches away from items I don't want protected. Using this method I do apply about 10-15% more protector then when I used a pump up sprayer. However, I have much more confidence in the application of the protector. And it is much faster then the sprayer and then raking it in.

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

Thankyou Del. Have you had any problems with applying too much? Does Soileze make the carpet crunchy if there is too much?

I have not had a problem with the carpet being crunchy.

However, Punch and Encap-Clean DS are more on the alkaline side and therefore do not leave the carpet feeling as soft as a standard acid rinse does. A couple of decent vacuumings and the softer the carpet will be.

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care