I have been applying my encap solution with a pump sprayer & then scrubbing it in with a 17 in dual speed.

Works nice & carpets are dry fast.

I wondered & wanted to ask the pros prior to doing it as an experiment:

Can I add the solution ( properly diluted ) to my floor machine tank & just apply it sparingly as I scrub & get good results.

We used to do Shampoo & extraction so I am used to applying the solution as I run the machine.

Your feedback is appreciated.

If you use the onboard solution tank you will also increase your productivity- (unless you are an octupus with eight arms).

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

Anytime I've tested, the cleaning results were always superior when I applied the solution through a dispenser tank through the pad as opposed to prespraying and scrubing.

Rick Thode
Cimex / Releasit Canada

you'll be more consistant with a power sprayer than gravity feed, at least thats been my experience!!!

I hate to disagree with Danny, but most folks normally experience better results using a solution tank.

The results seem to be most consistent when the solution is dispensed from the tank. The reason for this is because you can control your flow better, adjusting more or less output while you're scrubbing, as the need may be. And it also seems that the carpet cleans up more efficiently when the detergent is dispersed through the FiberPlus pad into the carpet.







Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

+1 on Productivity of Tank
+1 on Even distribution w/power sprayer
+1 on cleaning efficacy with Tank. It is my understanding tha encap products will work better if the scrubbing of chemical occurs quickly after the application of the chemical, before the chem gravitates to the bottom of the fibers. I would guess that is one of the reasons many sprayon encap producers recommend only prespraying pretty "small" sections before scrubbing. A lot of small bites as opposed to a few large bites. Another would be the prespray drying.
In some instances perhaps a light prespray of carpet or pad to lubricate surface might help reduce circuit breakers being tripped?
Also would suggest checking out Rick's info on the procedure with a Cimex(wet pass/dry pass?etc) to me it helps to provide for an even application of chemical, if one moves at a consistent pace as some ideas for solution tank use. Also with a rotary can use a counterclockwise scrubbing motion to emulate the agaitation of a Cimex.

My helper who has decided to go out on his own is learning this.

Machine w/tank is a whole different ball game. I'm waiting for a CBM with a built in tank.

In the case of my ex-helper, he has really set a name for himself going around town doing free demo's with a 13" rotary & no tank. I quit bailing him out yesterday on demo's turned ugly.

Danny, Did they teach you that in SOS? A tank always dispenses the solution thru the pads or brushes on the machine better than spraying has always been my experience. If you want a CRB machine with a built in tank, get a Sprint.

the consistancy of chemical application. I understand how a tank works and all, but too much/little can be a problem for some operators. with good battery/power sprayers it is worth it to have both options and use them to see what works best for you!!!

We use a shampoo tank for our 20 dule speed rotar and it works better then prespraying.

I would prefer to have the tank hooked up with a pump and a spray jet on the nose of the buffer spraying out just infront to the pad.

This would emliminate the spitting or slight splash that occurs


David

You can't miss that way.

I cleaned a carpet last night commercial 1040sq.ft. It was so low cut that the pads was gliding right over the top sufface. I used punch in tank this time mixed with DS/cimex. It dried as i was half way finished with the carpet.

The result? Well i saw that the dirt was still there but just lighter. I don't know what i did or didn't do but i know that i want to go back and make it right so that i can stand behind my guarantee.

Before leaving, i mixed punch in my sprayer and 10oz. pre-spayed what i had just cleaned 50sq.ft. let dwell then cimex/DS'd it and it came a bit cleaner. So based on that and past results of pre-spray, so far i see pre-spraying punch works better for me.

I always go back the next day to check the carpet for spots or what ever may be needed to make the the job the best it can be. So off i go.

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

I checked back at the account and saw that the results was better looking than last night. IT LOOKED LIKE IT HAD BEEN CLEANED. But the center traffic lane was light-dingy looking.

Stains were gone but overall its missing soething. I under bidded this one cause i thought it would be easy to clean cause is so low cut. But here i have learned something. I'm hoping when i go post-vac that will do the job of brightening up the carpet. If not i will go lift the pile. I don't mind, its all training. At the same time locking down an account.
Still open to your professional opinions!

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

Alex I have run into the same situation. The carpet looked greast but didn't pop like I wanted. I went over it with after Cimexing it with my O.P. machuine with just wet pads real quick and it really did a great job. The customer was thrilled and it only took an extra few mins as I just did the traffic areas.

Rick made a good suggestion about post bonneting/padding.

On carpets that are a little more stubborn, I like to do some post-bonneting too. I add the bonnets to the Cimex and just run back over the carpet. It puts a nice finishing touch on everything.






Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com