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Stemin Demon

September 14 2007 at 5:36 PM
Alex 


When flushing, should the pump and vacuum be on? What is the basic cycle when cleaning with this machine. Example : Some machines are damaged when the pump is on with no moisture.

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

A sign of the times!

 
 
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Grant D

Stemin

September 15 2007, 12:01 AM 

I can't answer your question, but wanted to add to your thread/question. I'm curious about the Demon and whether it would solve as many or more problems than a porty would.

I don't understand how it hooks up to a water source, where the water you suck out goes (do you put a hose in the toilet?) and other logistics like that.

Does anybody have pictures of the Demon at work that demonstrate how all this device works?


 
 

Rick Gelinas

Re: Stemin

September 15 2007, 2:51 AM 

Alex,
There s no pump in the SD. It gets its water flow/pressure from the city water supply.

Grant,
It hooks up to any faucet. The water is discharged to a sink, toilet, etc. Does it solve more problems than a portable? YES IT DOES. A portable will only pump about 1/2 gallon of water (on a good day). The Steamin Demon moves approx 2-3 gallons of water per minute. That's not twice as much water, that's not 4 times as much water, that's six times as much water. The Steamin Demon flushes with more water than even a truckmount. There isn't any other machine that can flush with as much water. So when you need to FLUSH a carpet, the SD is in its own class. Pretty impressive!






Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

 
 
Joe Gilstrap

No pump?

September 15 2007, 8:54 AM 

Rick, if the SD has no pump then I am assuming that it has no jets, so could you elaborate on how it works so good. Having never used one, I do'nt get it. Also how do you deal with a situation where the water pressure is low?

 
 

Rick Gelinas

The concepts behind how the Steamin Demon does what it does

September 15 2007, 10:50 AM 

Of course it has jets. Silly.

The SD is NOT like any other machine. Its concept is totally unique! It doesn't have a pump. It cleans with 2-3 gallons of water per minute. And it successfully recovers the water with a single 2-stage vac motor.

How is this accomplished? By brilliant design engineering! I'll try to explain...

Massive Amounts Of Water Without A Pump:

The SD is not a high pressure machine. It is a HIGH VOLUME machine!!! It gets hooked to a faucet and it derives its pressure from the city water source. Most cities have water pressure between 30-50 psi. The water gets sprayed into the carpet (via jets) with the full force of a garden hose!

Can you clean with 30-50 psi? Let me answer that by asking a different question. Can a fire department put out a blazing fire in a building, with just the force of 30-50 psi? They do it all day long. Picture a fire hose blasting water at a burning building. They are using just 30-50 psi of city water pressure to put out the fire. It's not the pressure that puts out the fire, it's the volume of water that gets the job done.

So there is where the SD does what it does - with volume. Imagine that you were to go behind your house and hook up a garden hose to and a spray nozzle and opened up the faucet full blast. You would be able to blast your patio clean using copious amounts of water. Envision the massive amount of water running across your patio. It isn't a pressure cleaner, but it is absolutely perfect for rinsing the patio! Now picture taking a portable extractor or even a truckmount over to your patio. Connect a carpet wand, lift up the wand - and spray water across the patio... you aren't getting much water at all!

Now you're starting to see what makes the SD unique. Water! Lots and lots of water. A limitless supply of water for rinsing the carpet. Not like anything you have ever experienced before. And all that water is produced without a pump. A unique concept, wouldn't you agree?

Recovering All That Water With A Single Wet Vac Motor:

The SD does not require a #45 Roots Blower Motor to recover the water! All that water can be recovered with a simple 2-stage vac motor. How is this accomplished? By brilliant design engineering! Again, I'll try to explain...

The vacuum chamber on the SD is very small. It probably holds about 2 quarts of water. Hmmm, pretty small you say. Yep, that's part of the trick! You fill that SMALL vac chamber half full of recovered water and what do you have? You have a vacuum chamber that operates on only about 1 quart of air volume space. Picture how the suction is transformed when you are sucking the air through such a tiny air space. A brilliant idea!

In addition to using a small air chamber to recover the water, the vacuum chamber is only about a foot from the floor. The water gets sucked through the vac shoe and up a very short distance to the miniscule high velocity vacuum chamber. A very cool design! And it works!!! The carpets are about as wet as they would be using any other typical extraction cleaning equipment. Not bad, considering that you're cleaning with 6 times more water than a typical porty.

More Stuff You Should Know:

The SD does not require filling and emptying like a porty does. There are 2 hoses that lead to the machine. The hoses and the power cord are nicely packaged together in a flexible plastic sheath. The plastic sheath keeps the 2 hoses and the power cord neat and untangled.

One hose gets hooked to directly a faucet. (The SD comes with a variety of faucet adapters to fit ANY faucet configuration you can imagine). The other hose delivers the dirty water to a toilet or drain. The recovery tank has a small pump (similar to a bilge pump) that pumps the dirty water out of the machine (via the discharge hose) as you are cleaning.

You can run 150 feet of hose with the standard SD configuration. It can also be ordered with dual discharge pumps if you intend run longer lengths of hose than 150 feet.

Does the SD have limitations? Yes it does. You are not cleaning the carpet with the agitation of high pressure. And you are not cleaning the carpet with high heat. What you are cleaning the carpet with is VOLUME! Lots and lots and lots of water!!!

The way to max out your SD cleaning is to pre-scrub the carpet with a Cimex, cylindrical brush machine, oscillating machine, etc. Then after you've provided good agitation to the carpet fiber, you can flush it like crazy using the SD. This one-two approach provides a terrific way to provide a deep restoration cleaning!

The SD weighs about 30 pounds. It is super light and portable. It is not like any other machine on the market, in that it can produce and recover more water through the carpet than a $90,000 "big box" truckmount. Can you see why I like the SD so well?

Another place the SD excels is in rinsing rugs in a rug cleaning operation. A simple rug cleaning operation can consist of a Rug Badger, a Cimex, and a SD machine. Simple!

The SD is a very cool machine that can be used to rinse better than any other rinsing tool on the market. When you combine the BEST agitation machine (the Cimex) with the BEST rinsing tool on the market (the SD), you now have the ability to produce superb results. And it can be accomplished on the 30th floor of a building with equipment that can fit into a small closet.

The SD is a pretty special machine, wouldn't you agree?





Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

 
 
Joe Gilstrap

Which one?

September 15 2007, 12:40 PM 

Rick, I have noticed that there are 2 SDs, the traditional and the one you have pictured on your website. What is the difference in the 2 and which one do you recommend for resi?

 
 

Rick Gelinas

Re: Which one?

September 15 2007, 1:10 PM 

Joe,

The Classic SD is pretty cool in its appearance. But I like the functionality of the new XL models a lot. Either version will work well. For resi work you should go with the 15" model (Classic or XL). The XL is less expensive too.





Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

 
 
Alex

Re: The concepts behind how the Steamin Demon does what it does

September 15 2007, 12:57 PM 


Boy!

Rick you really layed that out nicely. Hope you 're enjoying connections.

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

A sign of the times!

 
 
Rambo

A lot of Sizzle in that explanation, Rick

September 15 2007, 6:14 PM 

That is the best explaination I have ever heard on benifits of owning a SD, If I did not have one already, I would be ordering one Monday.

 
 
Rambo

Fire Hydrant water pressure

September 15 2007, 6:30 PM 

I have a few fireman, including my 19 yr. old grandson in our family. We were discusing psi at the hydrant for appling to a burning building. 50 psi is low and must be pumped by the firetruck, normal is 130 psi and above 130 psi is considered high pressure and must be used with caution. That 130 psi goes on the fire around 1000 to 1500 gpm, at least in Georgia.


    
This message has been edited by raymoody on Sep 15, 2007 6:33 PM


 
 
Joe Gilstrap

Re: Fire Hydrant water pressure

September 15 2007, 6:43 PM 

Darn, I was all ready to clean carpet and put out fires in my spare time.

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Aris

Re: Fire Hydrant water pressure

September 15 2007, 7:41 PM 

Don't mean to put water on the fire, but that doesn't sound very EnviroPactish to me...you're basically using copius amounts of our drinking water to flush carpets.

Now I'm no hippy granola type, however I have been making small changes in my business to reflects today's reality of global warming and environmental concern. Wether you agree or not, a lot of our customers will have those concerns.

I would think that a SD should only be used when absolutely necessary or limited to those really nasty areas.

 
 
Dion

Re: Fire Hydrant water pressure

September 15 2007, 9:46 PM 

But if you don't use the water The reservoirs will either over flow or the water is just left to continue flowing downstream (as it does here). All that extra water just causes floods, bank erosion, and road damage. Then it just evaporates. I'd rather have it evaporate off a carpet making me money.

Where do you get the winking smiley from?
Dion.



    
This message has been edited by DionR on Sep 15, 2007 9:47 PM


 
 
Rambo

Nice to have

September 15 2007, 10:00 PM 

Aris, a SD would be nice to have in case your carpet catches on FIRE.

 
 

Aris

Re: Nice to have

September 15 2007, 11:17 PM 

You're right...we could add fire restoration to our list of services!

 
 

Rick Gelinas

Re: Nice to have

September 15 2007, 11:26 PM 

Aris,
I agree wholeheartedly. The SD is not a very "EnviroPact" way to clean at all. However when the time comes when you really need to FLUSH a carpet, the SD is superb! And that's where it fits into commercial carpet cleaning...

Encap, encap, encap, encap,
encap, encap, encap, encap,
encap, encap, encap, FLUSH.
Encap, encap, encap, encap,
encap, encap, encap, encap,
encap, encap, encap, FLUSH.
Encap, encap, encap, encap,
encap, encap, encap, encap,
encap, encap, encap, FLUSH.
Encap, encap, encap, encap,
encap, encap, encap, encap,
encap, encap, encap, FLUSH.

Works like a charm


Ray,
I appreciate that fire trucks have pumps. However, have you ever seen a car run over a fire hydrant? Have you noticed the velocity and the quantity of water that shoots out at just 30-50 psi of city water pressure? A lot of water can be produced from a city water source. And as you know, the SD takes all that water and puts it to good use!







Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

 
 

Aris

Re: Nice to have

September 16 2007, 12:45 AM 

You're right Rick...when you need to flush, you really need to flush, sometimes you even need to flush twice! lol

I just love encapsulation so much, I want to do it all the time!



    
This message has been edited by CleanEvolve on Sep 16, 2007 12:47 AM


 
 
David Hebert

Re: Nice to have

September 16 2007, 3:07 PM 

While the page is not finished it may help someone out

www.highflowextraction.com

 
 
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