Is there a difference between one of these and the average OP machine?

Yes.

Yes ... A swing machine only spins in one circular direction using a side to side motion.

An OP machine uses an random osilation along with a spining motion. Much in the same way an orbital sander works. This machine you would push like a lawnmower. Much better scrubbing action versus the swing machine.

An op machine you can use Pads(towels) or a bonnet. A swing machine only uses bonnets for carpets.

 

I am sure there are other differences too but I think that answers your question.

 

I have the same swing machine for 11 years.
in that time I have run every type of bonnet,pad, brush that I could fit under it.

One big problem is people just do not know how to run one and do just what was said run it side to side.

You can run OP pads on a rotary with a glide I have used the ones John G was selling years ago, used low profile bonnets the Rubber Maid and BBC, Microfiber, Tuway pads both cotton and synthetics.

Anything you can put under a OP machine can be used with a rotary machine,and you will be quicker, will the OP clean deeper probably, will your clients know the difference I do not think so.


Once you use a 320 or 300 speed rotary
you will see how much production they can do.

I agree with David about running pads under a rotary. You do need the right pad driver to run the thinner cotton pads though.

I have tried running pads under my swing machine. The pad did nothing but bunch up under the machine. What was I doing wrong??

A rotary machine turns clockwise at 175 full revolutions per minute. An OP machine makes 1725 small revolutions per minute. That's 10 times as many revolutions per minute!

And the OP's SMALL orbits (about the size of a dime) mate up with the tufts of carpet fiber more efficiently than a rotary machine's singular large sweeping rotation. Lots of little circles versus a single big circle ---> little circles win!

Bottom line: An OP machine is capable of cleaning more deeply.





Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

David mentioned one of the biggest misuse problems in the industry.... swinging it side to side.

WRONG!!!. You will NOT get an even scrub or even solution despensing if you're dumping through a brush if you go side to side.

I think it was Gary Heacock a few years back wrote a report on this very subject and I saw the error of my ways and changed for the better.

I straight forward and back creating a slight oval of no more the half the width of the pass is the best option.

I too have run brushes, bonnets, pads, ChemDry bonnets etc under them with no problems. It's amazing how versatile they are but they don't measure up to the likes of my 19" Cimex or 20" Brute.

My 175 sits in the shed and gets used for rug work nowadays but on occassion, it goes out to works as well and in the right hands, I can usually get similar results to to techs with the other machines... it just takes longer.

John

John Middleton
Carpet Pro Ltd
Palmerston North
New Zealand

Your pads bunched up because they were not wet enough. You need to apply more solution or just put your pad into a bucket of hot water and wring it out with your hands and you should be ready to go. Get a solution tank for your machine if you don't have one. Makes jobs a lot easier.

John,

maybe i am taking what you said wrong, but David was saying that going side-to-side is wrong, not that it is right.

or did i misunderstand you?

thanx --- Derek.

I wasn't really clear sorry.

I was totally agreeing with David about the incorrect way MOST use the machine. MOST swing it side to side and I was trying to back up what David said about it not being the best way.

I hope that clarifies my post.

John

John Middleton
Carpet Pro Ltd
Palmerston North
New Zealand