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30 & 40 % peroxideNovember 30 2007 at 7:34 AM |
Jeff
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| Can anyone tell me the dilution rate on peroxide for normal stain removal |
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Rick Thode
| Re: 30 & 40 % peroxide | November 30 2007, 10:20 AM |
Hi Jeff:
Just to clarify, are talking 30 Vol. or 30% peroxide. There is a big difference because 30 Vol. = 9% & 40 Vol. = 12%. Which do you have.
Rick Thode
rick@releasit.ca
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Jeff
| Re: 30 & 40 % peroxide | November 30 2007, 2:32 PM |
Rick-
Currently niether looking to purchase in a couple days when I'm near the beauty supply, I'm told ammonia alos speeds the process any idea dilution rate ammonia to peroxide |
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Rick Thode
| Re: 30 & 40 % peroxide | November 30 2007, 7:44 PM |
If your buying it from a beauty supply shop it will be 30 Vol. = 9% peroxide. Put peroxide in one trigger bottle and put straight clear ammonia (not the sudsy stuff)that you get from the grocery store, mix ammonia 50/50 with water and put in second trigger sprayer. Put an equal amount from each sprayer directly on the stain, brush lightly and leave it. Do not extract. If will continue to react over the next 8 hours as it dries. Do not overwet the stain, just moisten. This solution works awesome on coffee, tea, tannin, water stains, and most organic colored stains like red wine.
The reason you leave in separate bottles is that once they are mixed, they die after a relatively short period of time.
The ammonia simply boosts the pH and accelerates the peroxide. The nice thing is the whole solution self neutralizes as it dries.
Rick Thode
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Dion
| self neutralize | December 1 2007, 3:38 AM |
Just being picky but in the interest of education...doesnt any chemical "self neutralize" as it dries since it has to be wet to have a ph? I guess to be really pick there is no such thing as a ph when it is dry. It is like asking "what temperature in the volume?" ph doesn't apply to dry. I am sure the ph stays the same until it is dry and then there is no ph.
This message has been edited by DionR on Dec 1, 2007 3:38 AM
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Rick Thode
| Re: self neutralize | December 1 2007, 10:40 AM |
That may be true Dion. Most chemicals leave a residue on your carpet that can be re-moistened and the pH tested. Even though Ammonia is a high pH, when re-moistened, it is fairly neutral or at least not dangerously high. This is the danger of things like traditional rust remover (hydroflouric acid). Even though it may dry, if not neutralized, the moisture in your skin can activate it and cause it to do serious damage.
Rick Thode
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Joe Desmond
| Re: 30 & 40 % peroxide | November 30 2007, 10:31 AM |
Hey Jeff,
In our Janitorial business we use h2orange2 which is a hydrogen peroxide based cleaner. less then 3%. I have used it on pet stains with success. I think 30 to 40 % is way to much. But I could be wrong.
For those that might be interested heres a good read.
http://www.cleanprosonline.com/Bleaches.html
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Mark Dullea
| re. coffee stain, ammonia, hydrogen peroxide, etc. | December 12 2007, 6:27 PM |
To Rick T.: would this be a combination of products that you would use on all-wool carpet, or just on a synthetic? |
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