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Stopped by a massage palor

December 4 2007 at 5:40 PM
Bill Grafton  

today to offer carpet cleaning service. No, honestly, I did. They were considering just replacing the carpet. They have six CGD carpeted rooms, each one rather heavily saturated with oils.
Obviously I'd like to just Cimex the rooms, but with all that oil maybe I should HWE first with a strong detergent, let dry overnight and then Cimex. Has anyone come across this situation and handled it successfully? I'll test it tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure it's nylon carpet.


    
This message has been edited by billgrafton on Dec 4, 2007 5:49 PM


 
 
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Del Scrivner

Re: Stopped by a massage palor

December 4 2007, 7:10 PM 

I'd upsell some protector on that bad boy!

Make you own luck,

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

 
 
Rambo

Re: Stopped by a massage palor

December 4 2007, 7:49 PM 

What ever you do, don't swap out services. And don't be so sure thats oil on the floor. Test it, but would recommend gloves.

 
 

Del Scrivner

Re: Stopped by a massage palor

December 4 2007, 8:07 PM 

UV Light...ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

If your shoes stick to the floor....RUN!

Make you own luck,

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care



    
This message has been edited by CowboysCarpetCare on Dec 4, 2007 8:07 PM


 
 
steve r

Re: Stopped by a massage palor

December 4 2007, 9:54 PM 

ive cleaned some tanning salons with the cimex and releasit but had to hit it again with the bane because of the oils.


    
This message has been edited by 19909090 on Dec 4, 2007 10:03 PM


 
 
Joe Desmond

Re: Stopped by a massage palor

December 5 2007, 12:09 AM 

Take Rambo and Dels advice...Gloves and a UV light

Steve,How long have you had your Bane? which model? Has it worked well for you? I have seen one on E-Bay recently looked in good shape.

 
 
Ken

Re: Stopped by a massage palor

December 5 2007, 8:33 AM 

Cover yourself head to toe as if you were cleaning up a meth lab

If you're going to barter make sure you get a free sample first.

Send us the before and after pics.


oh ya send some pics of the carpet cleaning too.


 
 
Bill Grafton

O K wise guys

December 5 2007, 10:44 AM 

The place is not as horrible as you all are picturing it. I like Ken's idea of taking before and after pictures. I think I will HWE first with a high ph cleaner, let it dry, and then Cimex.

 
 

Kevin Pearson

We've done them

December 5 2007, 4:55 PM 

We have a customer that owns three Massage Envy franchises. We have cleaned two of them. (The third one is only 6 months old). They have some oils on the carpet but it is not bad. We took the Cimex and they both cleaned up nicely. The oil that was in the carpet broke up with my regular spot remover and then we just went back over it with the Releasit/Cimex combo. and it was gone. Each one of these franchises had 15 different rooms and the worst area was the supply closet where they filled their oil bottles. They had lots of spills in there. It all came up easily though.

Kevin Pearson

 
 
John Middleton

I passed...

December 5 2007, 7:42 PM 

Had a couple of referrals to two differnet joints about 3 years ago and passed them both on to someone else as I'm not really interested in that type of environment.

SOmetimes we are made to feel by the customer that it is OUR duty to fulfil their cleaning requirements.

John

John Middleton
Carpet Pro Ltd
Palmerston North
New Zealand

 
 
Rambo

Re: I passed...

December 5 2007, 9:18 PM 

I can't believe this many guys admitted to going to a massage parlor to "bid a job"

 
 

Kevin Pearson

What's the big deal

December 6 2007, 7:51 AM 

What is the big deal with the massage place? Why do so many of you have hang ups about that? This is a legitimate business. The kind that give hour long back massages. My wife goes is a customer there, why shouldn't I clean their carpet. It was some of the cleanest carpet we clean except for a little oil.


 
 
Ken

Full Release

December 6 2007, 11:45 AM 

Nothing wrong at all as long as you get the full release happy ending.
Get what you pay for eh.

just sayin

 
 
John Middleton

Re: What's the big deal

December 6 2007, 2:08 PM 

Perhaps different terminology in different countries but in New Zealand, a Massage Palour is just a glossy term for a brothel.

If you want a back massage with your daks on, then you go to a massage/muscular therapist or a physiotherapist.

I go to the later on a regular basis and have also cleaned their carpets too. Not in exchange for services, just simply as a return of business.

Cleaning a brothel carpet... no thanks.

John

John Middleton
Carpet Pro Ltd
Palmerston North
New Zealand

 
 

Keivn Pearson

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

December 6 2007, 2:29 PM 

For some reason I was not thinking about THAT kind of "massage parlor". I was only thinking about the massage/muscular therapist kind.

I think I just had one of those "duh" moments.

Kevin Pearson

 
 
Bill Grafton

OH! Now I get it.

December 6 2007, 7:41 PM 

My original post was about a legitimate massage place similar to the Massage Envy franchises.
This one is not a franchise and is a family run business. They've been in business for 3 years and have never cleaned their carpet. It is pretty saturated with oil. I really don't think Releasit will do an adequate cleaning job on the first cleaning. I'm encourage by Kevin Pearson's post. Once I get it cleaned with HWE, I plan to Cimex it on a regular basis. If Kevin sees this post - How often do you Cimex your Massage Envy locations?

Thanks

Bill


    
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This message has been edited by billgrafton on Dec 6, 2007 7:42 PM


 
 
Ken

Rub & Tug

December 7 2007, 9:22 AM 

We have a rub and tug that buys a lot of very strong degreaser off us.
I ask no questions.

 
 
John Middleton

Bill, don't underestimate Releasit DS

December 8 2007, 1:22 PM 

I had a greasy restaurant that I was HWE'ing 4 times a year and getting ok results.

When I first got Releasit DS in a number of year ago (4 I think) and a box of 17" Fibre Plus to put under my rotary I swapped this account over to encap.

I cut my job time from a two man crew taking 2-3 hours to me doing it single handedly and it taking me 3/4 hour.

They have cut their cleaning frequency from 4 times a year to 2.

What I find is that the oily area coming from the kitchen just requires more agitation.

Sometimes a little more or stronger juice.

They won't allow me to go back to HWE. They just rung and I went to talk to them last week booking in for 24th before they close. They won't hear of my reasoning for a HWE clean inbetween every 3-4 encap cleanings. (I personally wonder if they think that I'm trying to get more work by going back to the old system that needed 4 times a year)

With the Cimex, I spend half my time on 3/4 of the area and the other on the kitchen walkway. All I normally do is do the whole thing with FPPads then re do that area with FMPads. This time, I intend to replace the FMPads and just wheel the Brute in and 'extract off' with glads or cotton.

I guess what I'm trying to say is don't underestimate the cleaning power of Releasit DS in an oily situation until you've tried. Can you perhaps do a trial of both systems?

John

John Middleton
Carpet Pro Ltd
Palmerston North
New Zealand

 
 
Rambo

Re: Bill, don't underestimate Releasit DS

December 9 2007, 8:15 AM 

John. you are so right. If it is greasy or any oil present I prefer pre-spray w/hot Punch alowing 5 minutes of dwell and then Cimex with Releasit DS mixed at 6 to 8 ounces per gal.

 
 
Bill Grafton

Thanks, John

December 9 2007, 9:20 AM 

I appreciate your comments on using just the Cimex. My concern is the first cleaning. This will be a new account for me and I want that first time to be a "WOW' experience for the owner since he was actually prepared to rip out the carpet and replace it. My thinking is to HWE with the Punch, spray on a little Soileze protector and then monitor the carpet over a two month period in order to establish a cleaning frequency using just the Cimex.
Thanks, guys. I really value your thoughts.

Bill

 
 

Kevin Pearson

Re: OH! Now I get it.

December 9 2007, 12:20 PM 

The places I clean are less than 2 years old. We have cleaned them twice. So maybe the oil build up is less than you are experiencing. You can take a spray bottle of Releasit DS mixed at a 50/50 ratio and spray it on the bad areas. If that does not work bring your TM as a back up. However, I think you will be pleased with the Cimex/Releasit combo.

Kevin Pearson


    
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Bill Grafton

Thanks, Kevin

December 9 2007, 2:24 PM 

I did as you suggested. I used a spray bottle with Punch and one with a "Heavy Duty Carpet Preconditioner" from CORE (ph 11.5/12). They both seemed to work equally well, removing the build up. Since I want this customer as a regular, and want to Cimex in the future, I'm going to suggest to do half of the 8 rooms using HWE and Punch at 10 oz. per gallon. Once I clean all the rooms and hall, I plan to offer a maintenance program of cleaning 4 times a year. Is that the frequency you clean your massage businesses?

Ever so greatful,

Bill

 
 

Anonymous

Re: Thanks, Kevin

December 9 2007, 10:12 PM 

I usually don't clean them but once a year. They are open 7 days a week and usually the corporate office will let them close one day a year and do computer maintenance, repairs, cleaning and so on. So we are usually in there with every other trade known to man on that day.


Kevin Pearson

 
 
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