Ok, I have read all the posts here about using the Mex & 4805s for T&G. My questions is this: Do I need a high PSI to rinse, or what is the proper procedure to rinse?

As I have it:

Remove dry debris/sweep
Spray on detergent, dwell
Scrub with Mex, 4805s
extract with my Edic (shop vac)
Rinse ? (mop/bucket ok?0

..Buff with beige pads, after dry or while still wet...?

also, in relation to what you charge for Carpet Cleaning, what increase in price do you charge the custy? double, triple?

Any info from folks that have used this system will be greatly apprecieated. A hotel we routinely service wants us to do their kitchens & Lobby areas. Are there different types of T&G also??

We have two items for you.
We have recently begun selling the TurboForce tools
The Hybrid is the best high pressure rinsing tool out there.
We also have the Kleenrite Horizon HP extractor to power the Turbo tool.
This combo makes a great way to rinse T&G following Cimex scrubbing.
Let me know if we can help you in any with this.


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Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

rick, would that tool work with an SD?

also, do you carry water claws? would they work with the SD?

oh yea, and is the high PSI necessary for T&G? I saw a post a while back (03?) that said a mop / bucket combo would do the trick...

A mop and bucket can do the trick. It just requires more effort to remove all the residue from the floor. The high pressure tools have an added advantage that they're pressure cleaning the floor at the same time the floor is being rinsed.

A Steamin Demon would not have sufficient psi to run a tool like the Turbo. The small Water Claw Spot Lifter could be used with the SD.








Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

I have had good results with the Cimex and the white brushes (poly hard) with tile and grout.

Have used an all bio solution which worked great in the Coffee Time, but the buetal based worked better in the Vets office. Different Solutions for different grout issues.

Rest, T&G is mostly ground in dirt and grease, lots of grease. I used an additional 15-25 pounds of weight on the Cimex so the bouncing stopped and it dug into the grout better.

Just went to the dollar store, got some pencil cases and some decorative rocks/marbles, cost about $12. If I decide to do lots more I will upgrade to the proper weight system that Rick sells.

Ed

That's a great price on the Turbo-Hybrid. Best T&G tool out there.

Another option for pressure would be to buy an electric pressure washer and use the Steamin Demon's water supply hose to connect to the pressure washer, and the Demon for recovery and auto-dump.

Still you would only have a total of 2 power chords.

The Turbo will work with the Steamin Demon on the vacumm side but would require more pressure to spin the the jets. You can get a watter otter or even a cheap electric presure washer to supply you with the pressure.

caution: I would not go over 1200 psi or you will risk blowing out the grout.


There are other tools such as a Gekko or even a glided carpet wand that do not require high pressure to work.

High pressure is not required to clean tile and grout, but certain tools require it to work properly.

Thanks for the info guys. Are there different types of T& G I should worry about or just the different types of soiling?

Hi Matt

To answer your question in a word - - - Yes. Yes there are lots of different types of tile out there. Some acid sensitive others not – for the most part. All of your questions are good questions and the guys had some great ideas on coming up with a system “outside of the box”. (I liked the idea of the electric hp unit and the SD. Do you need high pressure to clean T&G? No but the alternative really is unreasonable when it comes to time/labor saved on the job and that you will be able to give your customer a much better finished product. Its true there is more set up cost and I can feel your pain there but trust me, the pain with high pressure is going to be less than the pain with out high pressure) Back to your question about tile.

Most glazed tiles are going to be shiny or reasonably shiny. Dull (lack of shine) six inch tile in a commercial setting is “normally” going to be quarry tile (most of the time red, grey or tan and sometimes it has a diamond plate like tread on it. These can also look a little bit like natural stone – you see that type a lot in McDonald’s). Then there is porcelain. Porcelains can have their color/patterns on the top or they can be what are referred to as “through body”. Porcelain is not as indestructible as they are sold – watch out. Also some porcelain look very much like natural stone. That brings up something else – stone. But it’s not that easy; is it marble, granite or serpentine? Lets back up a second I think we skipped Saltillo – my bar none my least favorite tile to strip.

From your questions it seams like you might be new to tile and grout cleaning. No doubt you know your way around carpet but do some checking on tile and grout and I’m sure you’ll do fine. There are classes in a few different parts of the country; there may be one close to you. We will be having another one here in April. That class is mostly geared to stone but we’ll touch on a few things with regards to tile and grout. I know it seams like I jumped around a lot with regards to the types of tile out there but I wanted you to see that there are a few different things you’ll need to keep I mind – I hope it didn’t come off like I was being a Pin Head – if it did it wasn’t intentional, sorry . There are things you can mess up and I’d hate for them to come back and bite you. Once you get the basics down you should be in good shape. If you have any more questions let me know and I’ll gladly help you out any way I can.

Take care and get a reasonably good grasp on what you’re up against before you go at it. I hope the best for you.

David Gelinas
Marbleguy