I just cleaned a house with light colored frizz carpet and couldn't tell if it made it look better. I let it dwell for 15 min and agitated it into the carpet. Also it felt like there was a sticky residue left on the carpet when it was wet. I always feel the carpets to see how they are drying. Did i do something wrong. when I use traffic slam from bridge point I can see the difference when I hwe. It's a huge difference. I still love my cimex. When I used that I could notice the difference of the clean and not clean.

Why dwell at all? Spray it down and start scrubbing. The carpet should feel soft with no residue feel to it at all.
I cleaned for a guy yesterday use encap and the carpet was soft as usual. Living room was dry before I left which I cleaned about 500 sq ft in an hour. Plus moved furniture.

The very first day i put the mask on Del pulled it off.
So its just wittle wole' me, your servant Alex.

Anyway, I just cleaned a resident 508sqft. and 200 of it was highly soiled (family room)I pre-sprayed with Punch 1:8 and it did a tremendous job on the sticky-residue-filled carpet that was left there by the previous cleaner. What was once dark grey area was now light grey! Not enough light in house for photos.

I then Cimexed with 1:21 DS. Now What was light grey is now extra light. (Honestly) Customer was totally blown away. I told her that really, your carpet need a total restoring but but if there anything you don't like about this cleaning just call me and i'll come right out and address it.
Her response : I'm happy with it, when you come out come ready to put protector on it next week. This raises my question here on the board: WOULD IT BE MORE EFFECTIVE TO PUT THE PROTECTOR DOWN WHILE STILL DAMP VS. DRY?

I will be starting her on a maintenance program so I'm wondering if i should wait till next month to start appying the protector after i clean.









Thanks
Your Servant Alex

Cultivate the "OCCD" you had at first for the industry!

thats part of the iicrc cleaning is (chat) chemical, heat, agitation and time. It even says on the bottle to let it dwell. I agitated it into the carpet. My ratio was 1:12. The carpet wasn't that bad but I am on my way to clean another place and I am going to use a higher ratio. I put my protector down wet and use air movers to dry fast.

Did you use brushes or pads? If it's plush carpet, I found that brushes do a better job. Pads don't seem to get into the fibers of higher pile carpets.

I hwe with butler van. I did two more jobs friday and tried the I:8 ratio and didn't see much difference. I used traffic slam and it did a better job. I am disappointed because I was looking forward to the results my cimex did with ds. I am going to try it on one more job and hope It comes out better. Could anyone tell me what I am doing wrong because I bought 2 boxes of encap punch.

First I'd say that Traffic Slam is a great pre-spray.  However, it is pH 11, so you are voiding nylon carpet warranties, and weakening/stripping protector by using it.  If that IS NOT a concern then you have a perfect scenario.  If it works for you continue to use it.  I would ask why you are not using Zone Perfect- pH 9.5 instead.  It works well and has a MUCH more economical dillution ratio.

As far as the results you are getting, or I guess more specifically NOT GETTING with Punch, I am baffled it has done wonders on almost everything that I have tried it on. 

The only job it ever really did not give me really good results on was a REALLY nasty car interior AND to be fair I also used Flex 12.4 pH and OxyBlaster on it and it did not really get much better.  Pretty much permanantly damaged carpet.

Make you own luck,

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

It was on cheap apt carpets that the customer used a rug doctor on. He wanted the sofa outline removed. I tried both and the traffic slam work better. I also use zone perfect on all my carpets and traffic slam on trashed cheap carpets only. I bought encap puch to replace zone perfect and traffic slam. I don't know what up because I used a 1:8 ration=, agitated and let dwell. I don't know what i am doing wrong. Could it be a bad batch?

I am doubting bad batch, Rick is very particular with his products.  Could it be yes it could, just doubting it.

I am at a loss.  When I use Punch I apply and agitate it with my CRB (Sprint).  I see IMMEDIATE results.  Most clients think that the cleaning is done.  AT LEAST a full 50-65% of the carpets I clean I could let go at that step if all I was looking for was better appearance.

Then I HWE and extract on residential. 

Make you own luck,

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

Here is the results i got. This is in the middle of the job where i agitated punch in at this point. Here is the before:




HERE ARE THE AFTER PHOTOS (PUNCH ONLY)








I then came back and encapped it with Cimex and it turned out even better. My Main reason for doing this job was to specifically see what PUNCH could really do. I'm a confirmed believer in PUNCH!!

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

Cultivate the "OCCD" you had at first for the industry!

I am not using my cimex I am using a wand. I use a rake to agitate it into the carpet. My cimex is to heavy to lift into the apt. Its three steep floors up. I want to believe in encap punch but I have not got the results the other people have.

Mix Encap-Punch according to the directions. Agitate it into the fiber with a rake, brush, or machine. Allow a few minutes of dwell time. Then extract with hot water. You will get optimum results if you'll also add Punch to your rinse water.

You'll find that Encap-Punch can go toe-to-toe with most any detergent on the market. Of course there are some fire-water products on the market that are intended for extreme heavy soil. I'm not suggesting that Punch is pure gasoline like some of these products. What Encap-Punch is, is a highly effective product for the bulk of what you'll run into cleaning every day.

Now here's where Punch jumps ahead of "traditional" detergents. Encap-Punch is a true crystallizing encap detergent with protector built into the formula. That means the carpets will be left in a more soil-resistant condition.

Why is that important? It's because there's NO WAY you can ever hope to rinse all the detergent out of a carpet. We ALWAYS leave a fair measure of detergent behind. With HWE we're spraying down a concentration of strong pre-spray detergent onto the carpet and then we're attempting to dilute that detergent and rinse it from the carpet. It's practically impossible get it all out.

I can illustrate it this way: Take a gallon of red paint. Add it to 5 gallons of water. What do you have? Red water! Now add 5 more gallons. What do you have? Red water! Now add 10 gallons, 20 gallons, 50 gallons, 100 gallons. You will still see red in the water. It will take an ocean of water to dilute the red paint down to the point where you can no longer see a trace of the red.

The point is, when we clean with HWE we are DILUTING AND SUCKING. We apply a strong chemical to the carpet. And then we dilute and suck, dilute and suck, dilute and suck. You can do that all day long and you'll still leave some amount of detergent behind.

With Encap-Punch what we're leaving behind is a FAVORABLE RESIDUE. Whatever we leave in the carpet will actually continue to release from the fiber, and any possible remaining soil will continue to be extracted from the carpet through the normal routine post-vacuuming process. So we're now cleaning with 2 methods of cleaning - extraction plus encapsulation.

Bottom line: With Encap-Punch you're leaving your client's carpets in a much more soil resistant condition! That's cool. And keep in mind that Mrs Jones has likely heard the old story that her carpets will quickly re-soil after she gets it cleaned the first time. That may be why she's waited 3 years before she's had it cleaned - LOL. Well now you've got a reply for Mrs Jones! You now have a potent marketing angle... Her carpets will no longer have a residue that could possibly attract more soil, because you're cleaning with Encap-Punch ands its crystalline residue CAN'T attract additional soil.

If you need fire water, there are a number of good products on the market that fit that description. On the other hand, if you need a well balanced cleaner that can accomplish a wide variety of cleaning tasks, Encap-Punch will work very well for you. You can clean just about anything that you're likely to encounter with Punch. It retards wicking. And you'll be bringing a longer lasting clean to the table too. So that's what sets Punch apart from traditional pre-sprays and rinse detergents.

Another cool feature of Encap-Punch is that it's a 3-in-1 detergent. It crosses over between a pre-spray and a HWE rinse detergent. So now 1 product can accomplish 2 related tasks. It can also be used as a pre-spray in front of Encap-Clean and the Cimex (or any other scrubber). And Punch is also a killer bonnet/pad cleaner. So with one product, you can accomplish 3 different cleaning tasks (pre-spray, rinse, bonnet). And with each of those cleaning methods you'll have the added benefit of its encapsulation and anti-resoil properties. How cool is that? Plus Encap-Punch carries the CRI Seal Of Approval.

So that's the skinny on Encap-Punch. It's a cool product that covers a lot of ground. We worked long and hard developing Punch. It was a challenge to develop a product with the level of cleaning power of Punch and with excellent crystallizing properties too. We're proud of what we managed to come up with, and a lot of our customers like the way it works too. Punch has some unique properties. Yet it isn't the only product out there, there are many fine products on the market. If you have any questions or need assistance, give me a shout rick@excellent-supply.com






Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

Thanks for all the replies. Rick love my cimex and I was looking forward to encap punch working just a good or even better than ds. I use fiber plus in my rinse and I used encap punch as my pre spray. could my bridge point fiber plus rinse affect the encap punch. Is it ok to use rinse with encap punch? Let me know thanks. I would love to use my cimex on the carpet but its to heavy for me to lift up 3 very steep flights of stairs.

YES, that is one of the major reasons I switched over to Punch is the fact that you use the exact same chemical for pre-spray and extraction rinse.  Just follow the label on the bottle.

Make you own luck,

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care

so cowboy you cant use other rinse with encap punch? Is that what you are saying.

Yes you could use a different rinse detergent. But if you do that you'll be missing out on the encap benefits of the Punch. That wouldn't make sense IMHO.





Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

should i use encap punch as pre spray and as a rinse?

If a carpet is very dirty, you will most definitely benefit from agitation, beyond a carpet rake. I know you mentioned that the cimex is too heavy to lug up 3 flight of stairs. Ever considered a CRB, such as the Icapsol, or GLS? They weigh in at around 50 lbs.

Yes. That's what I was saying above.

"Another cool feature of Encap-Punch is that it's a 3-in-1 detergent. It crosses over between a pre-spray and a HWE rinse detergent. So now 1 product can accomplish 2 related tasks. It can also be used as a pre-spray in front of Encap-Clean and the Cimex (or any other scrubber). And Punch is also a killer bonnet/pad cleaner. So with one product, you can accomplish 3 different cleaning tasks (pre-spray, rinse, bonnet). And with each of those cleaning methods you'll have the added benefit of its encapsulation and anti-resoil properties. How cool is that? Plus Encap-Punch carries the CRI Seal Of Approval."






Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

Rick I am going to call you on monday to pick you brain. Thanks

I have never used a different rinse when using Punch.

I think that that is one area that you are doing differently then everyone else- therfore a potential problem.

BUT...I would say the bigger issue is that most folks on this board at least power agitate efore HWE and that is most likely the real difference in your results...IMHO.

Make you own luck,

Del Scrivner
Owner/Operator
Cowboy's Carpet Care