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White sock test?

August 9 2008 at 10:41 PM
Grant D  

I have a job coming up that I'd like to encap with an OP machine and either fiber plus pads or tuway bonnets. It's a pre-school type setting where the kids and employees all leave their shoes at the door and walk around in their socks all day.

After the cleaning should they owner and kids socks be dirty I'm sure I'd be getting an unfriendly call. Would encap be likely to leave the socks dirty? Is this something you guys ever encounter when you're cimexing your facilities?

I could OP with pads it would just take longer... Would planning a post vac work as another option?

Just wondering how you guys handle these situations.

 
 
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iluvcarpet2

Re: White sock test?

August 9 2008, 10:51 PM 

This is the question that always comes up. Where does the soil go? I try to use my cimex with all my residential. The carpet always comes out so much better than with my hwe on my butler van. The only problem is the cimex is to heavy to lift up stairs. I might buy an op machine and encap and mayber hwe after but I will have to charge more money.

 
 
Da vid

Re: White sock test?

August 10 2008, 2:20 PM 

As someone who does about 18 day care center for a few different companies I can tell you that if the area is always a sock environment then the chance for anything but light soiling is almost zero. You will have to deal with baby barf, poo and urine what I have done is extract the first time in any center followed by cotton pads first time around after that I have usually gone with encapping using beige pads followed by damp pads.


I doubt I need to do the damp pads but i am being paid really well to take care of these facilities, most have them done every other month, so the extra precautions make me feel comfortable.

BTW I like doing day cares, we are soliciting a another group to clean their facilities also.

David


 
 
Tony Guttieri

Re: White sock test?

August 10 2008, 12:59 AM 

Great question!


Cimex first with the Max pads and HOT Releasit Encap Punch at 12 ounces per
gallon.

If you can get a helper have them follow behind with an OP machine and a
COTTON bonnet.

Have the helper stop enough to check the bonnet.

Once the bonnet appears dirty (don't let it get solid black dirty) then have
your helper change to a clean side or clean bonnet.





If you cannot get a helper, only Cimex in sections so the solution will not
dry on you before you COTTON bonnet the moist solution back off with your
OP machine.




Principle behind this technique: Your cotton bonnet AFTER Cimexing is like taking a dry cotton sock and wiping over the wet solution. If the bonnet does not come off dirty any more while ever so slighty wet, then definately not a white sock when the carpet is dry. Test this out for yourself.

I did a job Friday afternoon just like this for a womens gym and it worked like a champ! I scrubbed with Cimex/gray max pads and then followed with an OP machine/cotton bonnet. I was impressed! I don't and won't do this all the time, but with a situation like yours I would 100%. Then to test it out, after cleaning, walk and run around over it in your own socks!


 
 

Rick Gelinas

Re: White sock test?

August 10 2008, 4:38 PM 

Reality says that white socks will turn gray regardless of whatever method you clean with (even HWE). There is no way you can recover ALL of the soil from a soiled CGD carpet using any method. You can only hope to reduce it. And with proper maintenance and care, that soil level can be brought to an acceptable level of appearance and hygiene.

How effective is HWE? It's a fantastic cleaning method for flushing a lot of water through a carpet! Yet if you clean a moderate to heavily soiled CGD carpet with HWE (very well) white socks will still turn gray. It's an inevitable fact.

On a soiled CGD carpet, the OP method will likely wipe the highest quantity of soil from the carpet's surface, where it would likely to transfer to socks. Another option would be to post-bonnet or post-pad the carpet after it's been cleaned via encap or HWE. That would help to reduce the soil on the surface of the carpet.







Rick Gelinas
rick@excellent-supply.com

 
 
Grant D

Thanks

August 11 2008, 12:27 AM 

Thanks all for the thoughts. I wasn't trying to "stir the pot". Just an honest question from a guy still trying to gain some "trust" as to the magic of the encap process.

 
 
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