I have a Janitorial business.

I have this commercial carpet in this shop that is a pain.
They have even said, "this is a manufacturing plant"

I encap it every 3 weeks or so. and since they are in and out of the shop, it gets tracked up, the traffic areas stick out like a pimple on your nose.

I was thinking of HWE it with my TM then when I am done go over it with the Cimex and DS after I put my hoses away.

Any one have success?

Maybe a waste of time. What do you think Rick?

Ron

Why are you asking Rick. He wouldn't know a HWE machine from a duct cleaning unit.

Cut out all the trial and error and get that acccount on a regular hot water extraction schedule. There is no need to piggy back methods on this. It's just a waste of time. If you have quality equipment, and good chemicals, then all you need to add to it is a hole glide for your wand and the patience to do drying passes. If you see any need to add another machine in that process, it won't be to POST do anything. I would be to PRE-scrub you prespray in, and a simple rotary machine will be quite sufficient for that.

Don't overcomplicate things, and don't overthink the issue.

How does it look when you finish encapping it? If its good looking then why change methods. You may only need to just Cimex the areas followed by op in the traffic areas.
Then follow up with Releasit Soil-eze protectant per six months and a dry soil maintenance in between cleanings.

Thanks
Your Servant Alex

Cultivate the "OCCD" you had at first for the industry!

If they are tracking stuff in constantly, I don't care if you put new carpet in every 3 weeks, it'll still look bad after 3 weeks.

Do they have adequate walk-off mats(9-12 feet in length)? Are those cleaned as well, very often? How is their vacuuming schedule, if there is one?

If the other parts of carpet maintenance are not happening, the cleaning method of choice can only do so much.

Like Alex asked, if you are not getting the results with encap only on the day you clean it, then maybe it needs more. But if it looks good when you are done, you can't control what they do for the next 3 weeks.

As much as it pains me I agree with Marty on this one. If you do anything I would pre-scrub the carpet then HWE. This gives more agitation and dwell time.

We have a transmission rebuilding shop that we clean regularly. All they do is rebuild them for a transmission repair chain so if you go to the chain and need a new transmission then they usually have one already rebuilt sitting on the shelf and they will swap them out and get you rolling fast. So the shop that does the rebuilding is our customer. It is not clean by any strectch of the imagination. Transmission grease everywhere. We usually go in with the Cimex / Releasit DS and scrub with the grey pads on the Cimex. Then go back and HWE the carpet to remove the crud in it. It works great and the carpet really looks good when we are finished.

Ron,

We clean a chain & rope manufacturing plant's office every two weeks. Like the posts above, if it looks good when you leave, even the next day or so, its out of your hands.

What we do: HWE then encap. Depending on area, when we have reached the end of HWEing our start point is dry, and looks OK. We then follow up with Mex & DS. That puts the finishing touch.

Usually, that combo holds up for two weeks, and we come back and just Mex/DS. Winter is approaching, and for us that means more flushing depeding on weather. But all summer & Fall straight DS & Mex...always does the job.

Matt and Kevin you are in the same boat I am in.
This is a manufacturing plant. When I Cimex it with DS it looks good, for a week or so, then after a couple weeks, I say to myself, you know I just did this 2 weeks ago, it looks like crap again.
I brought up the idea of HWE then encap, because I did it 2 weeks ago, I used an RX20 with Heat Wave then CimexDS the next day. a week later you see the traffic patterns.

It just gets frustrating. That's all.

To give another example, I did a church, this past Saturday.
A room with NEO Floor carpeting by Lees,
it is an all purpose room 2000 sq. ft.
used for meetings, dinners, party's
Have not had it cleaned for OVER TWO YEARS.
They called today to say that it looks clean, but there are a few areas that still look bad.

AMEN already,

It looks like I am in the minority but I like to encap with the Cimex first because of the agitation which helps break everything up then suck out all the junk with HWE to finish it off.

I would agree with the scrubbing first as well as that will make the hwe easier and more thorough.

While I'm a big believer in scrubbing in your prespray to make it more effective, when you have a carpet that that has that much soil load in it, your still going to get a lot of wicking of soils. So go ahead and scrub it in and extract, but finish off with Cimex/DS once the carpet has dried to take off the the soil that has wicked up and a little more of the deep down soil.

Rick Thode
rick@releasit.ca


Rick Thode
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Good point. Basically, carpets that are that trashed require a lot of time, which should equal a lot of money, but it usually doesn't work that way.

Rick,

I would agree with encapping again after the carpet has dried. However, I was talking about what you could do in one trip. The steps I listed above would only require one trip. If I had to then wait for it to dry and go back to Cimex/Releasit again then that would not be very productive as I would have already cleaned it twice and then I would wait for it to dry and clean it a third time.

I don't think that is practicle or profitable especially since it looks good when we leave.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying but on a small job say 1000 sf or so which is what the transmission shop is that we clean this way it would not be profitable.

Yes. I can see your point. I would have to think that to get the maximum benefit from one visit, scrubbing in a good dose of a strong prespray like Punch and then rinsing with Punch in the rinse. I would think that that would give you your best result as the Punch would help to encapsulate some of the remaining soil and minimize the wicking.

Rick Thode
rick@releasit.ca


Rick Thode
rick@releasit.ca
Your Canadian Source for Releasit/Cimex