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Shorty Down Under
Post subject: Please advisePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:07 pm
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Location: Cairns, F.N.Q. Australia NOT CANNES !!!
First Name: Shorty
Last Name: Glanville
Business Name: Get Shorty Carpet and Upholstery Care
Website: www.get.shorty.com.au
City: Cairns
State or Province: FNQ
Country: Australia
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: No
Repairs: Yes
Multi-truck: No
Fine Rugs: Yes
Tile/Stone: No
Equipment: HydraVac, Cimex, Makita, Hands on, TF3500, ( + other tools of mass destruction )
Supplier: No
Favorite Brands: Cimex at present
Professional assoc.?: Yes
Years in Trade: 100
Please advise me on the best way to clean the carpets in this building.
Building is sixteen stories high.
It is a completely sealed building.
Unable to run hoses down the exterior of the building.
Access is only from the front street.
You cannot run hoses through the self closing doors across the foyer to the fire escapes.
The fire escapes are alarmed and cannot be used for any maintenance work.
There are no other stairwells in the building.
If the vehicle is under 6.6" high, you can drive up to the second level.
This is where you can also enter the lifts/elevators.
Most carpet is direct stick polyprop carpet tiles.
The air conditioning is turned off after hours.
To have the air con running after hours, there is a $300.00 per hour surcharge.
I have two levels to clean, 11 & 13.
There is also no hot water available and the heat/fire sensors are VERY sensitive.
What equipment would you use and how would you do it ??
Thanks,
Shorty.
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Chads
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:08 pm
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Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 10:13 pm
Posts: 1034
Location: CA
First Name: Chad
Last Name: M
Business Name: Chads
City: Gridley
State or Province: ca
Country: usa
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: Yes
Repairs: Yes
Multi-truck: No
Fine Rugs: No
Tile/Stone: Yes
Equipment: Prochem/Steam Action
Supplier: No
Professional assoc.?: No
Years in Trade: 10
portable
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C&S
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:10 pm
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Posts: 674
Location: Meadville, PA
First Name: Scott
Last Name: Smith
Website: www.candscleaningservicesllc.com
City: Meadville
State or Province: PA
Country: USA
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: No
Repairs: No
Multi-truck: No
Tile/Stone: Yes
Supplier: No
Professional assoc.?: No
Years in Trade: 7
yeah, use a porty with a heater. maybe one with autofill auto dump.
where is that, and what do they do? is it some kinda lab?
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Shorty Down Under
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:17 pm
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Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:03 pm
Posts: 1231
Location: Cairns, F.N.Q. Australia NOT CANNES !!!
First Name: Shorty
Last Name: Glanville
Business Name: Get Shorty Carpet and Upholstery Care
Website: www.get.shorty.com.au
City: Cairns
State or Province: FNQ
Country: Australia
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: No
Repairs: Yes
Multi-truck: No
Fine Rugs: Yes
Tile/Stone: No
Equipment: HydraVac, Cimex, Makita, Hands on, TF3500, ( + other tools of mass destruction )
Supplier: No
Favorite Brands: Cimex at present
Professional assoc.?: Yes
Years in Trade: 100
It is an exclusive office block.
Only faucet on each level that you can screw a hose onto, is in the wc.
You come out from the wc, along a passage and enter the lift lobby, then go through a door on the other side to go to the furthest point, nearly 400 feet away from the faucet and toilets/lavatories.
A long way to pump water and pull waste water.
No air con, would not the porty generate heat that could set off the alarms ??
I have had this happen once before.
This is a good paying job IF it can be done to their satisfaction, ie; no wet carpet nor doggy smell when they come in next morning.
Thanks,
Shorty.
PS ::: Also, I forgot, not allowed to use an open flame appliance in the building such as lpg heater.
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Shorty.
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Chads
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:19 pm
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Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 10:13 pm
Posts: 1034
Location: CA
First Name: Chad
Last Name: M
Business Name: Chads
City: Gridley
State or Province: ca
Country: usa
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: Yes
Repairs: Yes
Multi-truck: No
Fine Rugs: No
Tile/Stone: Yes
Equipment: Prochem/Steam Action
Supplier: No
Professional assoc.?: No
Years in Trade: 10
five gallon buckets and carry them so you dont have to keep going back and forth or get you a helper to run buckets for you.
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FCC
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:20 pm
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Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:23 pm
Posts: 937
First Name: Fred
Last Name: Cordell
State or Province: GA
Country: US
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: Yes
Repairs: Yes
Multi-truck: Yes
Fine Rugs: Yes
Tile/Stone: Yes
Professional assoc.?: Yes
Years in Trade: 12
add a $300 per hour lack of HVAC charge for air movemnt
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Bob Foster
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:22 pm
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Posts: 4791
First Name: Bob
Last Name: Foster
Business Name: Expert Carpet Care
City: Sidney
State or Province: BC
Country: Canada
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: No
Repairs: No
Multi-truck: No
Fine Rugs: Yes
Tile/Stone: Yes
Equipment: Judson GreenGlides Greenhorn 14 Whittaker GLS Cimex RX20 Ninja Drimaster DriEaz
Supplier: No
Favorite Brands: Judson GreenGlides Mytee
Professional assoc.?: No
Years in Trade: 4
OP Cimex Portable Combo. There is hot water on each floor from the washrooms at the least. If so good portable with APO and inline heater and Cimex.
I think the building manager is playing games with you. If they want their carpets clean they can leave the AC on. That building will no doubt be controlled by a DDC (computer) environmental control system. The maintenance staff are arbitrarily throwing that number out at you because they will probably have to have their HVAC company do some temporary programming of their building climate control system to accommodate you. This is normally done remotely from the HVAC company's own office and likely has a service charge of a few hundred dollars in total attached to it. If it was the Telco or an electrician they wouldn't play that bull****.
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CleanEvolve
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:27 pm
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Posts: 226
First Name: Aris
Last Name: van de Loosdrecht
Business Name: CleanEvolve
Website: www.cleanevolve.com
City: Chilliwack
State or Province: BC
Country: Canada
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: No
Repairs: Yes
Multi-truck: No
Fine Rugs: Yes
Tile/Stone: Yes
Equipment: Prochem Legend XL, Cimex, Ninja, Sebo, Tennant, SX-12
Favorite Brands: Prochem Releasit Judson Juice Vacaway Esteam
Professional assoc.?: Yes
Years in Trade: 18
Drive to job.
Vacuum carpets.
Cimex with Releasit DS.
Collect $$$.
Simple.
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Bob Foster
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:29 pm
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Posts: 4791
First Name: Bob
Last Name: Foster
Business Name: Expert Carpet Care
City: Sidney
State or Province: BC
Country: Canada
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: No
Repairs: No
Multi-truck: No
Fine Rugs: Yes
Tile/Stone: Yes
Equipment: Judson GreenGlides Greenhorn 14 Whittaker GLS Cimex RX20 Ninja Drimaster DriEaz
Supplier: No
Favorite Brands: Judson GreenGlides Mytee
Professional assoc.?: No
Years in Trade: 4
I agree with Aris.
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Jim Nelson
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:53 am
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Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:40 pm
Posts: 144
Location: WA
First Name: jim
Last Name: nelson
City: edmonds
State or Province: wa
Country: usa
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: No
Repairs: No
Multi-truck: No
Fine Rugs: No
Tile/Stone: No
Equipment: butler
Supplier: No
Professional assoc.?: No
Years in Trade: 37
Thats an old school job you Shampoo it with a 175.
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Shorty Down Under
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:49 am
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Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:03 pm
Posts: 1231
Location: Cairns, F.N.Q. Australia NOT CANNES !!!
First Name: Shorty
Last Name: Glanville
Business Name: Get Shorty Carpet and Upholstery Care
Website: www.get.shorty.com.au
City: Cairns
State or Province: FNQ
Country: Australia
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: No
Repairs: Yes
Multi-truck: No
Fine Rugs: Yes
Tile/Stone: No
Equipment: HydraVac, Cimex, Makita, Hands on, TF3500, ( + other tools of mass destruction )
Supplier: No
Favorite Brands: Cimex at present
Professional assoc.?: Yes
Years in Trade: 100
Hey Bob, unfortunately the building manager sets the terms for the entire building.
Each tenant is responsible for their own carpet & office cleaning.
It is different down under, if I want to work on say levels 3, 5, 7, & 11, each tenant has to pay the excess to have the air con; turned on, on each level respectively.
Just like an insurance claim I guess, you pay the excess for each claim.
I choose not to use the air con; My choice.
I have tried a porty equipped with two x 1100 watt vac; along with a booster box with 2 x 1100 watt vacs; and using 230psi pressure.
I also had an inline sump pump which discharged the waste water before it even got back to my porty.
This was auto fill and auto empty.
I was unable to get enough hot water from an electric inline heater to make it worthwhile.
After using this method for several years, I was never really happy with the end result, neither were the tenants of the offices, especially with the damp carpets and the odor.
Four years ago I tried the Cimex with Releasit, also with another Australian brand encap;
I must admit that I was pleasantly surprised as were the tenants.
Each and every one of them agreed that I was only to use the "new system" that I had trialled.
Now whether or not the carpets are as clean as with hwe, I don't know.
I am not as scientifically minded as some on the forums.
What I do know is, that I get no phone calls the next day about marks still on the carpet.
I also know that I am out of the job a lot quicker than if I was to hwe it, & that the solutions I use cost more than what I would use if I was to hwe the job.
I also realise that labor is the biggest factor in the end profit, and this is where I am better off with this system.
Although I may use $50 more chemicals, I save myself a grand in labor.
You are welcome to compare the costings.
I do know that the polyprops; certainly appear to shine instead of having a dull, dead look to them, compared to hwe.
The tenants are happy and I have no complaints.
Now please, bear in mind that I have been an hwe aficionado for many years, and I did find this hard to comprehend.
But if my clients are happy, and they keep getting me back, what am I supposed to say, sorry, this system is no good because other people tell me so. ??
So, I guess that until MY clients tell me that they are unhappy, I will continue to use the method in this building for as long as possible.
I have also been cleaning a store inside a very large shopping centre every month for the last four years.
This store is located right next door to the food area so it cops a fair bashing.
It is a red wool carpet, and again, the tenants have expressed their desire for me to only use the above method.
I realise that a lot of people do not like the encap system, that's okay by me.
It's not for everyone, nor is it for every job.
But there are some jobs where it does make sense to use it instead of other systems.
Encap is merely a tool to be used in the appropriate area, either on it's own or in conjunction with other systems.
It is up to the experienced operator to distinguish the difference as required.
If I have trod on any toes, or hurt anyone's feelings, so be it, I would rather speak the truth than lie to you just to keep someone happy in their ivory tower.
I also still have my tm and use it regularly, even if not as often as before.
It still as a place in my toy box, (as does my porty).
And my CMX-20.
And my little handy spotter.
And my, crikey, I think I got too many toys.
Thanks ,
Shorty.
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Shorty.
www.get.shorty.com.au
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harryhides
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:43 am
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Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:14 am
Posts: 4735
Location: MB, Canada
First Name: Tony
Last Name: Wheelwright
City: Winnipeg
State or Province: MB
Country: Canada
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: No
Repairs: Yes
Multi-truck: Yes
Equipment: Powerclean, HM, Steamway, Cimex, OP.
Supplier: No
Favorite Brands: none
Professional assoc.?: Yes
I can't wait to what Jimmy will suggest........
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rctpks
Post subject: Re: Please advisePosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:07 am
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Posts: 6854
Location: KS, Topeka
First Name: Richard
Last Name: Chavez
Business Name: Chavez Restoration
Website: www.chavezrestoration.com
City: Lawrence Topeka
State or Province: Kansas
Carpet Cleaner: Yes
Restoration: Yes
Repairs: No
Multi-truck: Yes
Fine Rugs: Yes
Tile/Stone: Yes
Equipment: Prochem, Butler, Drieaz, Injectidry, TES
Supplier: No
Favorite Brands: Prochem
Professional assoc.?: No
Years in Trade: 30
Obot or OP the funnel traffic areas, Cimex all other areas.
The OP method will pick up the heavy soil on the pads and then Encap (Shampow for Jimmy) will have an easy time of the rest.
All low moisture, so not drying issues also no TM hoses, no porty's to slow you down.
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