Hello everyone new to the forum today having some problems with encaping so here I go. I recently purchased a gallon of release it ds2, and a case of fiber max pads. I wanted to try out the encap crave for the first time. I was using a 175 with out a solution tank so i sprayed the juice down first then went over it with the 175 with minimal results. Then I increased the concentration and got a little better results. To me it looks like the 175 is not releasing the dirt from the fibers because after it is dry I can take the back of a knife and scrape the carpet and it comes out clean. When I vacuum it cleans up a bit but not to my desired results. Any ideas?

Richard you will ALWAYS get better results using a shampoo tank. Spraying the solution down and then following along afterward with a rotary type machine using the FiberPlus pads is not going to provide consistent results (unless you just happen to be very adept at spraying down a very even flow of detergent).

If you must spray the solution down - spray a very even and uniform amount of detergent across a small section of carpet and then scrub it immediately. Allowing the solution to run down the fiber (away from the the top of the fiber where it will generate a light foam) is counterproductive.

To see the best results with encap shampooing - use a shampoo tank like you see here. It will make all the difference in the world...

http://www.excellent-supply.com/Mytee-Wave-ST-4-4-Gallon-SolutionShampoo-Tank-for-the-Mytee-Floor-Machine-HD-17-HD-20-and-SD-17_p_174.html

Wishing you success once you get your encap dance moves down pat! If you need any help let us know.





Rick Gelinas

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Thank you Rick I appreciate all the help!!!
One more question though if I understand you correctly I should be seeing a small amount of the white foam on top the carpet.

Richard

Absolutely. A nice light layer of white foam. If you start seeing mounds of foam you're using too much. So look for a light even foam to appear on the carpet's surface.





Rick Gelinas

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Richard, are you using fibre plus pads or fibre max pads? The cream ones or the tougher grey ones? 

I use fibre plus pads daily but have only used the fibre max pads maybe 3 times in 3 years.

I found that the max pads required lots more juice and the results weren't spectacular.

On bad carpet that I am encapping I generally use fibre plus pads, but go slower, or sometimes go back over a bad area to get better results.

So as far as the foam is concerned if I am not seeing any at all what does that mean and how can I fix it. I am using the fiber plus max pads and I will get the fiber plus on the way to see if that has an affect.

Richard, do what i posted above if you're not seeing a light whitening of the surface. A nice, even, uniform coverage of solution is needed. Spray down enough to generate foam as you're scrubbing. Spray a small section and scrub it immediately, otherwise the solution will soak down the fiber and it won't work well.

Better yet, use a shampoo tank, as shown above. It can be very hard to get good control over your solution when you're spraying it down first and then going back to scrub it. A shampoo tank would make a huge improvement. You'll have much better control of your solution, you'll be able to fluctuate the quantity of juice applied as you generate a light layer of foam, and the cleaning results will be vastly improved.








Rick Gelinas

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When I started encap I used Rick's test bottle. Oh, was it screwed up. I sprayed waaaaay to much area at one time. Wasn't close to uniform. Luckily, I'm relatively hard headed. I sprayed it a bit thicker and smaller area. Got waaay too much white foam. The bottle was IIRC supposed to clean 600sq ft. I managed to get like 144 clean, yes, one room.

Get a tank. It makes the job MUCH faster and is MUCH MUCH easier to get quality results.