I need some insight and advice!

[OXIGREENGUY]

I have been capping a Retro Fitness gym for over a year. I do five of them in total and this is a very important account to me.
Last Thursday I did one. I did the two looker rooms ,day care and 2 offices. The men's locker room cleaned up great. But with in 24 hours it had severely resoiled in the entrance and the entrance to the bathroom tile area from the locker room. There is even dirt on the tile on both sides of this area. There was a 12" wide path about 7 foot long that literally came back in a dark shade of gray and when you rubbed it with a cloth the BLACK dirt would come off and even on my finger tips.
This is what I did.
Pre vac with beater bar vac.
Punch at spec mix
DS2 4oz to gallon
Cimex with pads.
They do the post vac the next morning

The rest of the areas I capped look great and have a clean feel as you run your hand over it. But the path that resoiled is just terrible. It's as dirty as before I cleaned it.

Today I went back and drenched the resoiled area with pure water and shop vaced it dry. This made a huge visible change for the better but I have no idea what it will look like tomorrow. The water that drained out of the shop vac was BLACK. I don't own a porty. I have been doing everything up to this point with a BrushPro and my Cimex. Seams like my experience is capping is working great for residential and I have a hitch with bad soiling clean ups with CGD carpet. I must admit I have read many times that some big names are just capping commercial. I thought I could also. I'm questioning this now and hate the idea of having to spend thousands for a nice porty.
Anyone else having these issues or in site?

Thanks, OxiGreen

[CleaningConcierge]

You still need to extract some of the soil in the very high traffic areas either with 8" bonnets on the cimex or bonnets under a 175 machine. (Rotary). The fiberpads will extract some soil but not as much as a bonnet.

Areas where we follow with a bonnet - front entrances, entrances to break room and restrooms, in front of counters, high traffic corners, etc.

With the cimex, its more of spot bonnet use. With a rotary, we bonnet whatever we want or need to extract additional soil.

Also, you can your mix a little stronger at 6oz per gallon or use punch at 12oz per gallon as your prespray and your normal dilution.

You are working with 2 sources of dirt/soil...patrons shoes and the tile in the entrance.

You may want to look out for a used portable to have in your arsenal for areas like these or trashed carpets.


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[lee@deepclean.us.com]

You may wish to find a resource where you can rent a porty if you only need it from time to time.

[Charles]

At some time all commercial carpets need to be flushed from excess dirt.
Last year I was cleaning commercial in a house bedroom and the
foam was turning into mud. Filthy place. It needed HWE.

If you are cleaning residential too, you will need a portable. What about pet urine?
What about cleaning upholstery too? Lots of money there.

Right now Rick is offering his Portable Truck Force 18 Month Interest Free Financing . It's a good deal. There is a chance to get a machine with no money out of pocket.

Those tile areas in the locker rooms need cleaning too. Lots of soap on them and will stick to carpet. Carpet will get greasy fast.

DON'T EVER TAKE A WET DRY VAC TO A RESIDENTIAL & USE IT FOR AN EXTRACTOR. That family will never hire you back. Try to rent one if you need it.

[encapman]

Great advice above!

Where there is heavy soiling and a build-up is occurring over the course of time, extraction is recommended. Periodic extraction will get your carpet back on track. The TruckPort is a great machine, and a heck of a god deal for what it offers. Or any decent porty could be used.

Regarding the flooding and shop vac that you did. It's probably gonna look HORRIBLE after it wicks up! So a post-encapping would be a good idea to get it back together again.

Shoot me a PM, email, or call if I can assist you in any way.

[OXIGREENGUY]

I just spoke on the phone with Barrett from Commercial Clean and he set me strait on a plan of attack. It's nice to have a forum with members that truly care and will help you out.

Thank you Barrett! and thanks for the relies guys.

John Fitzpatrick from OxiGreen